My CCW took about 5 months after the application was sent in. The process was not bad, just time consuming.
TD
TD
Where did you hear that?
I dropped mine off late March and was told it should be approved any day as my prints were back and my interview was done.
What's your source on the 6 months?
I think mine would have been only about 2-3 months but the trooper took some time to get the interview set up. Thats what held mine up.
TD
The reason for this action is to basically force MD into "shall-issue" whether the "need" requirement be struck down or simply neutered so "self-defense" will qualify as "need".I don't know the strategy being considered, Cary, but it seems to me that applying for a "may-issue permit" for a fundamental constitutional right is not the best path.
I think Maryland has 3 options:
Maryland's "May Issue CCW permit" without an existing lawful Open Carry standard for adults (except felons and mentally ill) is, today, I believe unconstitutional.
- Constitutional Carry, like Arizona and Alaska.
- Open Carry (which should be the default law at this moment)
- Shall Issue, like Virginia.
I think Open Carry, at a minimum, is the law of the land today.
The court test would be for a dozen folks (attorneys?) to have a peaceful open carry lunch at the Inner Harbor and defy the cops to do something about it. Media welcome.
Will Maryland try to enforce unconstitutional laws? Maybe. Maybe not. They are prosecuting wiretap cases for videorecording cops in public performing official duties. Smart, they are not.
My trooper actually came to me at work to do the interview.....
You would just apply under personal protection sans the documents.
It means without.
I thought just crossed my mind, we are all concentrating ont the "good and Substaintial Reason" part but doesn't the recent ruling by the USSC also throw out the 3 references part? After all Why would our rights be subject to how an interviewer interprets what someone says about us. It should be based on objective criteria, yes?
LD
I thought just crossed my mind, we are all concentrating ont the "good and Substaintial Reason" part but doesn't the recent ruling by the USSC also throw out the 3 references part? After all Why would our rights be subject to how an interviewer interprets what someone says about us. It should be based on objective criteria, yes?
LD
i think it cost $112.25 to apply but im willing to try, even if there is no refund.
Will you be attending the next MSI meeting? If so, I will most definitely clear out my schedule to attend.I'm glad to have opened such a healthy discussion and I appreciate all of the questions and viewpoints about various approaches to any lawsuit to be filed.
Obviously, caution dictates that anyone to be involved not discuss strategy via the internet. I'd be happy to have a detailed discussion over the telephone with any interested member of this group - particularly those who have applied for and been denied permits in the past three years.
Also, I should say thank you to those who have already responded. We will be following up with you.
For those who were rightly interested in my background and motivation, I couldn't agree more with your concerns. It is extremely important that the initial cases be brought by the right people (speaking of both the lawyers involved and the plaintiffs). This is why it is so important that we hear from potential plaintiffs as soon as possible.
For my part, I am happy to discuss a little of my own background. I have been practicing law for more than a decade with the majority of my practice focused in civil rights and, in particular, fighting government encroachment on those rights.
I've successfully litigated against a municipality's attempt to ban smoking (even outdoors on your own property), a town's attempt to annex a portion of the county where residents wished not to be annexed, a rent control ordinance which discriminated against students, a government-established monopoly on the funeral home business, a wide variety of discrimination including reverse discrimination, unlawful terminations for political purposes, and police misconduct.
I have what the Washington Post called the largest verdict ever against Prince George's County for civil rights violations.
I have served as an officer or sat on the Board of a number of legal associations, including the Maryland Association for Justice.
I have won awards for my work, including from the Maryland Trial Lawyer’s Association and the ACLU. I have also provided media commentary to most local media outlets including the local network television news programs, the Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun.
The firm where I am a shareholder has been in Maryland for more than 40 years. We have 35 attorneys and offices in Rockville and Greenbelt. I joined this particular firm because of its historic reputation for defending the civil rights of Maryland citizens.
Finally, I can tell you that while we reserve the right to seek fees from the state, court-awarded fees are usually a small fraction of what a civil attorney might earn on other matters. In other words, our efforts will be largely, if not entirely uncompensated.
Fortunately, our practice is successful enough that those of us with a particular interest in an issue have some freedom to pursue it. Which brings me to my interest. I grew up in West Virginia where gun ownership was virtually universal. Like many of you, my father gave me my first rifle for Christmas when I was 12 and I have enjoyed shooting and associated activities ever since. In fact, I recently purchased enough land in Southern Maryland to build a small private range.
But more than my interest in firearms, I am dedicated to our Constitution and to seeing that every right in it is reserved to the people to the greatest extent possible. I have pursed this goal without regard to politics or which party was encroaching on which civil liberty with the consistent aim being to defend and secure our rights. This is why I am a member here and why I am interested in the Second Amendment fight.
I hope you will join me.
Best regards,
Cary
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