HB0824 (2023) - Public Safety - Regulated Firearms - Possession and Permits to Carry, Wear, and Transport a Handgun

[Bertfish]

Ive been a member of MSI for a while, renewed again recently with what little extra capital I had at the time.

I just want to find a way to stick it to em.

I mean the nearly double in cost alone is enough for me.. Sure, I make $85k/yr.. but that is single income family of 6... it doesn't go far.

From talking to Mark I can say that it will likely be easy to find plaintiffs for the big stuff. Fee increases, the ban on carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. The challenge is the more niche sensitive places. Specific health care facilities etc.

Look through final text of 824 and SB1 when it's all done and see what you can do. I'm hoping to help myself.

 

[csanc123]

From talking to Mark I can say that it will likely be easy to find plaintiffs for the big stuff. Fee increases, the ban on carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. The challenge is the more niche sensitive places. Specific health care facilities etc.

Look through final text of 824 and SB1 when it's all done and see what you can do. I'm hoping to help myself.

824 is already passed... can pull final text from MGA website...all that awaits is Gov signature.

 

[Mark75H]

The actual final text isn’t yet available to the public.

 

[Jaybeez]

Final text usually has an E at the end of the file name, for Enrolled version.



T is for Third reader

 

[MigraineMan]

The actual final text isn’t yet available to the public.

Final text usually has an E at the end of the file name, for Enrolled version.
T is for Third reader

Yep. You can check the MGA summary page for the bill. Expand the "History" arrow/tab. Last item says it's enrolled, but the most current Text they have posted is Third Reader.

 

[Some Guy]

Final text usually has an E at the end of the file name, for Enrolled version.



T is for Third reader

Good information. Thank you for sharing it.

 

[daggo66]

James demonstrates cowardice once again. Muse, too.

They’re democrats, why would you expect otherwise?

 

[Mark75H]

What I tried to understand from the third reader was that it lacked the final amendments. It would be nice to see the act of the legislature before sine die, but as I’ve said many times before, what will really matter, will be what MSP decides to (or is told to) enforce in COMAR in September.

 

[MJD438]

Final text is available - https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2023RS/bills/hb/hb0824E.pdf

 

[Tower43]

So they reversed the 2 years BACK to 3 year permits. Interesting.
While I disagree with all gun control, I don't see much of this being overturned in the courts; unless we managed to get an activist constitutionalist judge. Unlike SB1 which is directly challenging SCOTUS, this one is more subtle, and I don't predict a win on these ones.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

They want a report that itemizes gender among other things at the same time they are using tax money to affirm care for gender choice. Gender changes are not natural therefore, it is a mental illness. Those people cannot get a permit.

 

[Bertfish]

So they reversed the 2 years BACK to 3 year permits. Interesting.
While I disagree with all gun control, I don't see much of this being overturned in the courts; unless we managed to get an activist constitutionalist judge. Unlike SB1 which is directly challenging SCOTUS, this one is more subtle, and I don't predict a win on these ones.

Easiest pickings here are the fees. Evidently tons of SCOTUS case law on fees related to rights. The fiscal note stated this would be 100% profit for the state. So hopefully that one can get hammered

 

[Tower43]

Easiest pickings here are the fees. Evidently tons of SCOTUS case law on fees related to rights. The fiscal note stated this would be 100% profit for the state. So hopefully that one can get hammered

Maybe, high hopes but low expectations. Given the Senate was smarter about it and only increased $25 vs the house's doubling... the judge MAY see that as reasonable. I agree with you that it's not, however neither you nor I are judges seeing these matters... and as the MGA has so deftly shown, they don't understand common sense either.