Handgun Permit Review Board Denial

[Mooseman]

DC-W discussed CCW via the Governor.

Okay. I thought the question was directed at me. Sorry.

 

[BUFF7MM]

I'm with you on the denial Buck, I was denied on the informal, I never got a formal denial yet.
What a bunch of jack offs we have running this state.

 

[Schwabe]

On the last day of the month of July in 2013 I received the denial letter from the Maryland State Police following my informal review of denial. I applied during the window provided by the Woollard decision. I was one of the 365. Once the MSP quit holding the applications, I was denied. I went through the informal review process. Because I was located in Allegany County, they let me do my informal review over the telephone. Again I was denied. After this denial, within the allotted ten days, I appealed this decision to the Handgun Permit Review Board. Fast forward eleven months to today. I received a letter from the Handgun Permit Review Board denying my request for a handgun permit. After eleven months I had given up hearing from them altogether. I was surprised when I received this letter today. Before I had given up, I thought that I would be scheduled to appear before the board and present my case. Apparently, the board makes their decision without any input from the person requesting the hearing. So, it took them just shy of a year to tell me that I do not even deserve to speak to them, I am denied. According to the letter my only recourse from here is to file an appeal in Circuit Court. I was going to let it drop when I thought I was ignored by the board. After receiving this letter, I am considering hiring an attorney and taking it to Circuit Court. Thanks for listening. I feel better now that I have let off some steam.

Exactly the same for me, original 365, never heard anything back from my request for a hearing with the review board and received the same denial letter yesterday.

 

[Mooseman]

Exactly the same for me, original 365, never heard anything back from my request for a hearing with the review board and received the same denial letter yesterday.

I wonder if they are sending them out in bulk? It makes me wonder if our names were even mentioned and discussed at a meeting or if they just decided to do a blanket denial.

 

[dblas]

I pretty sure you are supposed to get an inperson hearing. they only do 1 or 2 permonth and their woolard backlog will take years to complete if they follow the rules.

reports from people getting in person hearings are that the board is dping everything they can to break rules, like the open meetings act.

I would consult an attorney, msi, and possibly del mike smigiel, because he's attended several of these hearings and might be interested if the board is changing tactics.

I was under the impression that I was entitled to an in person hearing. After eleven months I figured that I just fell through the cracks. Now I get this letter telling me that their decision has been made. I am going to have to take a day or two and decide what I am going to do. Right now, I am too angry to make a rational decision.

Sorry guys, under Public Safety code 5-312(b)

They can (1) review the record presented by the Secretary; or (2) conduct a hearing.

https://www.mdsp.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=D_D8gXp84Aw=&tabid=968&mid=3191

 

[dblas]

On the last day of the month of July in 2013 I received the denial letter from the Maryland State Police following my informal review of denial. I applied during the window provided by the Woollard decision. I was one of the 365. Once the MSP quit holding the applications, I was denied. I went through the informal review process. Because I was located in Allegany County, they let me do my informal review over the telephone. Again I was denied. After this denial, within the allotted ten days, I appealed this decision to the Handgun Permit Review Board. Fast forward eleven months to today. I received a letter from the Handgun Permit Review Board denying my request for a handgun permit. After eleven months I had given up hearing from them altogether. I was surprised when I received this letter today. Before I had given up, I thought that I would be scheduled to appear before the board and present my case. Apparently, the board makes their decision without any input from the person requesting the hearing. So, it took them just shy of a year to tell me that I do not even deserve to speak to them, I am denied. According to the letter my only recourse from here is to file an appeal in Circuit Court. I was going to let it drop when I thought I was ignored by the board. After receiving this letter, I am considering hiring an attorney and taking it to Circuit Court. Thanks for listening. I feel better now that I have let off some steam.

Did you happen to have additional information to add to your application?

 

[Mooseman]

Did you happen to have additional information to add to your application?

No, but I would have appreciated the chance to speak for myself. How about the 90 days that they have to review?

 

[dblas]

No, but I would have appreciated the chance to speak for myself. How about the 90 days that they have to review?

That is squarely on MSP. MSP has not been providing any documentation until a day or two before a hearing. MSO is supposed to turn the information over immediately upon request by the HPRB after the HPRB has received a request for review.

 

[kenpo333]

I am pledging $100 to the Moose defense fund.

Just say 'when' and I'll get a check out to you.

I will also pledge $100 to the defense fund. We need to do all we can to stand up to them.

 

[kenpo333]

Oh and another $ 100 for the party if he gets it!!! LOL

 

[ECPDefense]

I am on travel for work and my wife calls me telling me I got a letter from the state. Sure enough it was a denial letter by the HPRB. I was under the same impression that I was supposed to be able to testify. I have already written 3 additional letters requesting an update on my appeal. Needles to say, I am livid! I will be making some calls when I get back home. It sounds to me that they are just sending out bulk letters.

 

[kenpo333]

Sounds like we need to consider a big venue for the party with 350 plus guest attending. Go get them!!

 

[TxAggie]

So it's looking like it was basically an across the board denial.

Again, so much for their assertion that a majority of applicants are approved for a permit.


Oh wait, they probably had half the Dems in the legislature apply just to keep their numbers up.

 

[SRD]

I wonder if the "365" were included in the 297 claimed in this article??

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=156747

 

[Mr H]

As you know, the "365" was a waypoint number that got adopted along the way.

In reality, the number is believed to be more like 2000+

Why wouldn't MSP stall, if the PTB don't want issuance?!

 

[BurtonRW]

I just got mine today, too. Same story. This may actually be worth looking into if they just sent out a batch denial to all 350+ of us who applied in the window.

I'll be making some calls tomorrow.

-Rob, Esq.

 

[montoya32]

I have a question, what criteria were the "365" denied under? The criteria prior to SB281 or the criteria after? Isn't there a requirement now to have the hql and training class prior to application?

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[swinokur]

No G & S reason.

 

[dblas]

MSM picking up on this issue.

http://www.abc2news.com/homepage-showcase/conceal-and-carry-permits-difficult-to-obtain-in-maryland

 

[emnsb]

It would seem to me that the easiest way to resolve the issue would be instructing MSP that self defense qualifies as G&S... I would love to see any documentation, internal or otherwise, for G&S guidelines used by MSP...