Expungement of assault charges denied HGP. Know anyone, or even other charges.

[scottyfz6]

Okay first I am asking for a lawyers office, one that was recommended to me by Mark P.

They are working with someone who had an assault charge or conviction, that person got it expunged. MSP is denying that persons HGP due to the charge/conviction. They are looking at pushing it with the state due to an expungement is an expungement and the case show go away.

They are working with a few other people that have other situations that are similar, ie expunged charge/conviction but hql or hgp denied due to a charge/conviction that was expunged. I know there have been a few things said here with people going thru this as well.

If you know anyone or you or can find the thread that talked about please message me. It maybe a possibility to get involved with this as a group, and not have to go at it alone.

 

[Dataluss]

Okay first I am asking for a lawyers office, one that was recommended to me by Mark P.

They are working with someone who had an assault charge or conviction, that person got it expunged. MSP is denying that persons HGP due to the charge/conviction. They are looking at pushing it with the state due to an expungement is an expungement and the case show go away.

They are working with a few other people that have other situations that are similar, ie expunged charge/conviction but hql or hgp denied due to a charge/conviction that was expunged. I know there have been a few things said here with people going thru this as well.

If you know anyone or you or can find the thread that talked about please message me. It maybe a possibility to get involved with this as a group, and not have to go at it alone.

I don't understand your terminology and statement you wrote here. BUT I would recommend calling (ED) Edward Hershon Esq. Google him. His office is in Annapolis, MD He is an EXCELLENT Attorney, very skilled in all facets of 2A and criminal problems. He is also a member here on this site.

 

[Blackstar65]

Okay first I am asking for a lawyers office, one that was recommended to me by Mark P.

They are working with someone who had an assault charge or conviction, that person got it expunged. MSP is denying that persons HGP due to the charge/conviction. They are looking at pushing it with the state due to an expungement is an expungement and the case show go away.

They are working with a few other people that have other situations that are similar, ie expunged charge/conviction but hql or hgp denied due to a charge/conviction that was expunged. I know there have been a few things said here with people going thru this as well.

If you know anyone or you or can find the thread that talked about please message me. It maybe a possibility to get involved with this as a group, and not have to go at it alone.

The conviction gets expunged. The arrest still exists in police records.

 

[scottyfz6]

To restate MSP is denying HGP for people with expunged charges. If you know of anyone whom this has happened to contact me and I will give a name of a lawyers office that is working on this sort of thing. They are not working on it at an individual person level, they are looking for a group of people it applies to. They are going to try to attack it at the state level, not thru the courts unless needed.

 

[scottyfz6]

The conviction gets expunged. The arrest still exists in police records.

Not if all the steps of expungement are done properly by the courts order.

 

[fishoholic]

did they get a expungement compliance letter from Maryland CJIS ? if not it may still be in their system and that's what MDSP checks. I personally had an expungement done recently and was approved for my carry permit.

 

[Dataluss]

The conviction gets expunged. The arrest still exists in police records.

Usually if it was an expungement in Maryland, YOU still have to wait for a "Certificate of Compliance" papers. It can take over a YEAR for the initial expungement order, that was signed by the Judge, for THAT ORDER to make it's way through the DA office, the Jail, CJIS, and any and all agencies that were involved in that arrest/expungement.

 

[Blaster229]

The conviction gets expunged. The arrest still exists in police records.

Nope.

You can have an arrest that has no conviction. An expungment makes everything related to the ARREST disappear.
The problem is people listening to others saying answer yes to the arrest even if your cased has been expunged.

If you answer yes to the arrest and everything was expunged, this will make an investigator try and look for ANYTHING related to an arrest of yours, and maybe fine a scintilla of something out there.

I literally spoke to one of the women who works in the court who is a supervisor over expungements. She said to answer NO to an arrest.

That is, after you received all compliance letters.

 

[scottyfz6]

Gentleman, ladies and RD. ( hehe )

This is not about the expungement process, or letters of compliance. This is about someone ( or many ) whom have had an expungement that was completed 100% and is still being denied.

 

[fishoholic]

Gentleman, ladies and RD. ( hehe )

This is not about the expungement process, or letters of compliance. This is about someone ( or many ) whom have had an expungement that was completed 100% and is still being denied.

I wasn't denied, but I did attach all of my expungement documents to my application.

 

[Dataluss]

Perhaps there's MORE to your story, about and your, or someone else's Expunged charges/record. I don't think MSP would deny folks HGP app, IF an expungement has been PROPERLY done, and within reason.

 

[scottyfz6]

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There is one person here who had an assault expunged, MSP denied their HGP ( might have been HQL ) due to that expunged assault. Thats the main person I am looking for.

Now please if you cant help with finding that person or know anyone it applies to please exit the thread.

PS also please stop with the bold and italics on every one of your posts.

 

[Dataluss]

There is one person here who had an assault expunged, MSP denied their HGP ( might have been HQL ) due to that expunged assault. Thats the main person I am looking for.

Now please if you cant help with finding that person or know anyone it applies to please exit the thread.

PS also please stop with the bold and italics on every one of your posts.

smh

 

[sbmike]

 

[King of COD]

Just attached compliance papers only to be told “the federal govt informed Md expungements are no longer acceptable”

 

[fishoholic]

Just attached compliance papers only to be told “the federal govt informed Md expungements are no longer acceptable”

did you get a compliance of expungement letter from cjis ?? if so then you will have no problems with the background check for w&c permit

 

[King of COD]

did you get a compliance of expungement letter from cjis ?? if so then you will have no problems with the background check for w&c permit

No just recieved first order from judge granting expungement that I sent…app still says pending for HQL
since 7/14 this the response I got when I attached judges order

 

[SigNerd]

No just recieved first order from judge granting expungement that I sent…app still says pending for HQL
since 7/14 this the response I got when I attached judges order

Maybe they misstated (or poorly stated) because of the lack of CJIS letter?

The ATF still lists an expungement as enough provided it doesn't specifically state that it doesn't cover restoring your gun rights.

Is an individual who has been pardoned, or whose conviction was expunged or set aside, or whose civil rights have been restored, considered convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

No, as long as the pardon, expungement or restoration does not expressly provide that the person may not ship, transport, possess or receive firearms. A restoration of civil rights, however, is only effective to remove the federal firearms disability if the law of the jurisdiction provides for...

www.atf.gov

 

[King of COD]

Maybe they misstated (or poorly stated) because of the lack of CJIS letter?

The ATF still lists an expungement as enough provided it doesn't specifically state that it doesn't cover restoring your gun rights.

Is an individual who has been pardoned, or whose conviction was expunged or set aside, or whose civil rights have been restored, considered convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

No, as long as the pardon, expungement or restoration does not expressly provide that the person may not ship, transport, possess or receive firearms. A restoration of civil rights, however, is only effective to remove the federal firearms disability if the law of the jurisdiction provides for...

www.atf.gov

So I have to wait for CJIS letter I can’t apply for pardon if it’s nothing there??…that link shouldn’t apply to me it wasn’t for domestic …I had GTTF case from dirty cop Fabian Laronde expunged for wrongful arrest

 

[SigNerd]

So I have to wait for CJIS letter I can’t apply for pardon if it’s nothing there??…that link shouldn’t apply to me it wasn’t for domestic …I had GTTF case from dirty cop Fabian Laronde expunged for wrongful arrest

1. I personally know nothing about the process. Some people in the past have said that you have to wait for the CJIS confirmation letter on expungement. I was offering it as a possibility, but I probably should have kept quiet rather than muddy the waters. Sorry about that. But since I've already muddied them, just to fully explain what I was saying (feel free to ignore):

2. Based on the ATF page I'd think expungement (possibly with CJIS confirmation) would be enough.
3. It was just the first ATF page I found on expungements. I'd think that the logic (expungement as long as it doesn't specifically exclude restoring gun rights) would apply to any prohibiting conviction/arrest/other situation.
4. Regardless, I hope some more knowledgeable people can offer some advice and I hope you get it fixed quickly and easily.