DC Public Transportation Carry Ban Lawsuit

[GTOGUNNER]

They have only made a minor difference from what I have seen.

 

[Sunrise]

They have only made a minor difference from what I have seen.

People still hopping over or sandwiching through?

I’ve actually noticed a big difference.

 

[Ismee]

56
Oct 5, 2023
Main Doc
Notice of Supplemental Authority

Still no news worth printing! Seems like the court went from foot dragging to knuckle dragging.

56 notice Notice of Supplemental Authority Thu 10/05 4:42 PM NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY by GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE(Lyon, George)

Att: 1 Exhibit Kipke v. Moore

 

[Ismee]

more "not news"

Friday, October 06, 2023

57 notice Notice of Withdrawal of Appearance Fri 10/06 2:07 PM NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL OF APPEARANCE as to GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE. Attorney Dennis Polio terminated. (Polio, Dennis)

 

[Sunrise]

more "not news"

Friday, October 06, 2023

57 notice Notice of Withdrawal of Appearance Fri 10/06 2:07 PM NOTICE OF WITHDRAWAL OF APPEARANCE as to GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE. Attorney Dennis Polio terminated. (Polio, Dennis)

Thanks for sharing this.

 

[Sunrise]

How about that:

‘They're stealing': DC hearing weighs policing changes for fare evasion

The Metro Safety Amendment Act of 2023 would require people stopped for fare evasion to provide their true name and address to officers or face an additional fine.

www.nbcwashington.com

They’re finally making the connection.

However, they’ll never admit that legal carriers aren’t the crime problem on Metro.

 

[Bob A]

How about that:

‘They're stealing': DC hearing weighs policing changes for fare evasion

The Metro Safety Amendment Act of 2023 would require people stopped for fare evasion to provide their true name and address to officers or face an additional fine.

www.nbcwashington.com

They’re finally making the connection.

However, they’ll never admit that legal carriers aren’t the crime problem on Metro.

Neither will they admit that the people who jump the gates,costing the system tens of millions of dollars per year, are also the people whose presence and behavior deters many of the law-abiding from using the system at all.

 

[Afrikeber]

Neither will they admit that the people who jump the gates,costing the system tens of millions of dollars per year, are also the people whose presence and behavior deters many of the law-abiding from using the system at all.

Metro police arrests are up exponentially for gate hoppers. PG and Northern Virginia primarily. Montgomery County no arrests.

 

[Sunrise]

Metro police arrests are up exponentially for gate hoppers. PG and Northern Virginia primarily. Montgomery County no arrests.

They need to make the fine high enough that it pays for officers at all stations to arrest them.

 

[Afrikeber]

They need to make the fine high enough that it pays for officers at all stations to arrest them.

Courts hate the back ups caused at the courthouse so the arrests get dropped at the prosecutors office.

 

[swinokur]

Mo Co no arrests? Why ride the train with the hoi polloi when you can drive by yourself in your Lexus?

 

[Bob A]

Mo Co no arrests? Why ride the train with the hoi polloi when you can drive by yourself in your Lexus?

Glad you understand.

Certainly has nothing to do with your decision to abandon MoCo, hoi polloi and all. Me, I'll stick to my 22 yr old ride, as well. Meanwhile, our rulers continue to work hard to turn this into the "Land of Peasant Living."

 

[rascal]

DC has over the years seized hundreds and hundreds of illegal firearms with pat downs of fair evaders. They no longer do this because they no longer do anything about fair jumpers.. So not only is rampant increased fair evasion costing DC taxpayers billions -- seizing firearms in subway, a formerly major source of getting illegal guns off the streets, has dropped to near nil.

The irony is a person with no license to carry, and no registration is now at no more risk of being caught or penalized for going on metro rail or bus -- than they do walking down the street illegally armed. There is no legal difference nor increased jeopardy nor increased penalty for a bad guy to be on a subway while armed compared to being on the street while armed. Yet a background checked, trained, waiting period subjected licensed CCPL holder is under way more penalty risk if they are on a subway carrying compared to walking on the street.

 

[Kanly]

DC has over the years seized hundreds and hundreds of illegal firearms with pat downs of fair evaders. They no longer do this because they no longer do anything about fair jumpers.. So not only is rampant increased fair evasion costing DC taxpayers billions -- seizing firearms in subway, a formerly major source of getting illegal guns off the streets, has dropped to near nil.

The irony is a person with no license to carry, and no registration is now at no more risk of being caught or penalized for going on metro rail or bus -- than they do walking down the street illegally armed. There is no legal difference nor increased jeopardy nor increased penalty for a bad guy to be on a subway while armed compared to being on the street while armed. Yet a background checked, trained, waiting period subjected licensed CCPL holder is under way more penalty risk if they are on a subway carrying compared to walking on the street.

Can't argue with anything said here and I'd only add that I'm pretty sure any law abiding DC permit holder would get the book thrown at them for any infraction -- way more than the people with multiple arrests and felony convictions.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

They have only made a minor difference from what I have seen.

People still hopping over or sandwiching through?

I’ve actually noticed a big difference.

September 25th thru 29th saw more than 40k fare evasions each day. The number not quite as high as earlier in the year, but its creeping higher again.

 

[Sunrise]

Man critically injured in Georgetown Metrobus stabbing, police launch manhunt for suspect

A person is in critical condition Saturday night after a stabbing on a Metrobus in Northwest D.C., police said.

wjla.com

It’s a gun-free zone, not a knife-free zone apparently.

 

[babalou]

More BS out of DC.

"Get arrested so you can have standing." I'm not surprised that I'm not surprised.

sooo, one enumerated right is not as enumerated as another. Gotcha. effing moronic bastage

 

[Sunrise]

sooo, one enumerated right is not as enumerated as another. Gotcha. effing moronic bastage

In spite of Bruen, it appears so.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not “a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.” McDonald, 561 U. S., at 780 (plurality opinion). We know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need. That is not how the First Amendment works when it comes to unpopular speech or the free exercise of religion. It is not how the Sixth Amendment works when it comes to a defendant’s right to confront the witnesses against him. And it is not how the Second Amendment works when it comes to public carry for self-defense.

New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Fourth Amendment in that it prevents law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms. We therefore reverse the judgment of the Court of Appeals and remand the case for further profeedings consistent with this opinion.

 

[Sunrise]

Is anything happening with this case? I haven't seen an update on PACER in quite a while.

 

[Ismee]

more filings and still no action...

Mon 12/11 9:03 PM NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY by GREGORY T. ANGELO, CAMERON M. ERICKSON, ROBERT M. MILLER, TYLER YZAGUIRRE(Lyon, George)

Att: 1 Exhibit Exhibit 1, Antonyuk opinion,

Att: 2 Exhibit Exhibit 2, Springer opinion