Can someone recommend an HBAR?

[annihilation-time]

It's a generalization that has tended to work for quite a long time. However as manufacturers change their materials and move toward monolithic type bullets (100% copper, brass etc) this "guide line" will become less and less relevant.

I agree.

 

[annihilation-time]

i would say give windham weaponry model hbc a look. it comes with a 1:9 twist..can probably find it for under or around 900 if you find a good buy..just change out the trigger..also get a lifetime transferable warranty..

Gun Connection sells Windham HBAR rifles, and they are about $900 (if I remember correctly).

 

[EngageSmith]

I know some people that have had very good results with White Oak Armament barrels. Check out the SDM barrel. It's 20", but HBAR profile, stainless, fluted, .223 Wylde chamber - http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17565&cat=250&page=2

 

[AliasNeo07]

Gun Connection sells Windham HBAR rifles, and they are about $900 (if I remember correctly).

Very interesting. I've never heard of them, but they have a model thats peaked my interest.

http://www.windhamweaponry.com/pdf/TechSheets/Windham Weaponry HBC.pdf

It doesn't say what length gas system (I'm assuming carbine based on length of handguards), whether it has T Marks, a chromed chamber (it says barrel, but doesnt mention chamber). Anyone have experience with this company? I'm a little iffy throwing a grand at a company i've never heard of. Any comments on reliability, how they execute their BCG, etc?

Right now its between:

http://www.windhamweaponry.com/pdf/TechSheets/Windham Weaponry HBC.pdf
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWA3F16.asp
http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/Products/ColtTacticalCarbine.aspx

Let's keep it to those three rifles please. Thank you guys for 3 pages of replies it's been a great help. Now just between these three.

One thing I'm curious about is the difference between colt and everyone else. I do recall they used to use oversized pins but I am pretty sure they stopped that a few years back. As of now, is parts interchangability 100% with other manufacturers like DD and BCM?

 

[aquaman]

6721 by far. You pay more for Colt but its worth it, the resale is ALWAYS higher than other brands which is great if you decide to change directions down the road or 30 years from now when its a collectable.

 

[BradMacc82]

Between those 3 - Pony up and get that Colt. (God, I hate to have to say that with Aquaman around... )

Bushmaster - aside from the .450, don't trust them.

Windham - may put out a great weapon to be fair, but I haven't handled/shot one.

 

[cobra]

I have a Bushmaster hbar with 20" barrel.
It has shot every ammo I tryed without a failure.
Very accurate to boot.fwiw

 

[tball]

+1 on Bushmaster

I have a Bushmaster hbar with 20" barrel.
It has shot every ammo I tryed without a failure.
Very accurate to boot.fwiw

+1. I have a Bushmaster Modular flattop with a 16" chrome lined match grade barrel with a 1 x 9 twist. I've only put about 6K rounds through it and so far it eats everything without a problem. I shoot mostly Russian ammo with it.

 

[m33p]

i just purchased an HBAR bushmaster off of Ed at gun connection. Very happy with it so far.

 

[knightofcydonia]

new bushmaster (freedomgroup downsized craptory) or the old bushmaster (windham weaponry) rehired all the folks that got canned when freedom group bought it out and seems to have attempted to put out a better rifle..and then there is colt.
from what i read on here freedom group messed up marlins..if its an old bushy i would say go for it but the lifetime warranty is nice if you dont plan on doing anything crazy to the gun..

 

[AliasNeo07]

Disregard. Probably gonna buy the colt.

thx for input everyone.

 

[stricer555]

I have a Windham Weaponry HBC and I think its a great rifle, over 800 rounds through it without a problem. It does have a carbine length gas system, m4 feed ramps, staking on the gas key is good, and not 100% sure but it does look like the bore is chrome lined also. I wouldn't have a problem if you wanted to meet up one weekend to give it a test drive to see how you like it.

 

[browning guy]

I know some people that have had very good results with White Oak Armament barrels. Check out the SDM barrel. It's 20", but HBAR profile, stainless, fluted, .223 Wylde chamber - http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17565&cat=250&page=2

Just ordered a 26" barrel from White Oak!

 

[Huckleberry]

Have you checked out Fulton Armory?

They can be pricey, especially the M14/M1A; Garands and M1 Carbines but they do deliver on their quality and accuracy.

Www.fulton-armory.com

 

[sailskidrive]

Have you checked out Fulton Armory?

They can be pricey, especially the M14/M1A; Garands and M1 Carbines but they do deliver on their quality and accuracy.

Www.fulton-armory.com

Fulton Armory upper on a POF lower. I can't remember if it has a Douglas or Kreiger barrel, but it's silly accurate. They matched a bolt up to it for me. $499 back when I bought 6-7 years ago.

Now they have a side cocking option which I would have gone with for sure if it was available at the time.