ATF looking to reclassify projectiles

[swinokur]

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CCRKBA Letter To BATF Chief Blasts Proposed Ammo Ban​

[FONT=&quot]BELLEVUE, WA – The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms has sent a blistering letter to B. Todd Jones, director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, opposing the Obama administration’s proposed ban on M855 ammunition for modern sport-utility rifles.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb told Jones in the letter that after hearing from thousands of members, he cannot blame them for being “concerned” and “furious” over the proposal, first made public on Feb. 13. If adopted, the ban would affect perhaps the most popular commercially-available ammunition for modern semi-auto rifles owned by millions of American citizens. A copy of the letter may be read here.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“The ammunition in question, M855 ball for the 5.56mm/.223 Remington modern sport-utility rifle, provides an affordable option for AR-15 owners to practice, compete, hunt varmints and control predators,” Gottlieb wrote. “The argument that there is no ‘sporting purpose’ for this ammunition is at best specious. It is the most popular ammunition for the most popular rifle in America today.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“There does not appear to have ever been a single use of this ammunition in one of the handguns chambered for the .223 Remington to injure or kill a law enforcement officer wearing soft body armor,” he added. “This proposed ban on the M855 seems like an answer to a problem that does not exist.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Gottlieb cautioned Jones that CCRKBA members “are seriously concerned that such an administrative maneuver could easily be used again to ban other types of common rifle ammunition, all of which we both know is capable of penetrating Kevlar and similar bullet resistant vests, which were designed to stop handgun bullets.” He assured Jones that CCRKBA members “have a long tradition of support for law enforcement.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“However,” he concluded, “I must concur with those members that the proposal appears to be a camel’s-nose-under-the-tent effort that, if successful, could easily be abused to place even more restrictions on other rifle ammunition in the future.”[/FONT]
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[Southwest Chuck]

Hum......Odd that there is no link to this "Blistering Letter" in the Press Release ???

Edit: Here is a copy of the letter:

http://www.ccrkba.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/201503021113.pdf

 

[swinokur]

http://www.ccrkba.org/

 

[rbird7282]

Comment period is open until March 16 so nothing until after that


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[Evojoeix]

i find it interesting how many people are up in arms over this, but yet when they released the letter about the sig brace, people just sat back and say "well we knew it was coming".....

 

[madchestermonkey]

Im sure it made it somewhere in the thread but the whitehouse petition is getting some movement.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-batfe-banning-xm855-ammunition/XrvVh1cj

 

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[FONT=&quot]BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation has authorized court action if the proposed ban on .223-caliber ammunition is implemented by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the foundation’s general counsel has warned in a letter to BATFE Director B. Todd Jones.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Writing for SAF, general counsel Miko Tempski tells Jones, “This proposal is just an attempt to limit firearms rights because the President’s other such attempts have been blocked through constitutional checks and balances on his power.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“Should the BATFE lawlessly proceed on this path,” Tempski warns, “SAF intends to call on those checks and balances to stop the Administration’s executive overreach again.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Tempski’s three-page letter dissects the BATFE proposal, noting repeatedly that M855 ammunition at the center of this controversy “is not armor piercing pursuant to the definition in the statute.” The federal provisions requires that a cartridge fire a “full jacketed projectile large than .22-caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun…,” or to otherwise be fit for use in a handgun and have a core “entirely constructed” form a specific list of non-lead metals to be prohibited.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Tempski explained that the M855 round does not meet either of these criteria. He said the first definition, “fails immediately as the 5.56 x 45 mm round is not designed and intended for use in a handgun,” and he questioned the ATF’s honesty with regard to the second definition, noting that a “small tip of steel making up less than 1/6th of the projectile cannot be used to claim the bullet or its core are “entirely” steel.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“The proposed framework,” he writes, “intends to define the intended purpose of ammunition based on the availability of certain types of handguns made for it. Such a circular definition is highly illogical in any context.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The comment period remains open through March 16. People may submit comments to:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Email[/FONT][FONT=&quot]: APAComments@atf.gov [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fax[/FONT][FONT=&quot]: (202) 648-9741.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mail[/FONT][FONT=&quot]: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[oldman12]

Its been a very tough couple of years , but when money gets better SAF and the NRA are getting very well donations.

 

[Bisondice]

https://dcpr00gbauvhc.cloudfront.ne...to-atf-director-jones-apa-framework-final.pdf


House letter to ATF with many signatures. Any Maryland people?

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

EXCELLENT! Nice to see Congress critters earning their keep for a change.

 

[DC-W]

These guys set up a fax line
http://savem855.com/

 

[j_h_smith]

These guys set up a fax line
http://savem855.com/

That's a really good one. I may have to submit mine using them. Probably do it in the morning.

Thanks!
Jim Smith

 

[CypherPunk]

Im sure it made it somewhere in the thread but the whitehouse petition is getting some movement.



https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-batfe-banning-xm855-ammunition/XrvVh1cj

It used to be that government served the people.

Now, thanks to a corruption of the public education system, we line up to beg government grace us with a irrelevant comment and we are apparently grateful for that.

 

[Minuteman]

EXCELLENT! Nice to see Congress critters earning their keep for a change.

Looks like the congressional bilateral support to oppose the Obama end run of the constitution is already being discussed.

I'll just leave this link to the NRA update from yesterday here: https://www.nrapvf.org/articles/201...house-opposes-obama-administration-s-ammo-ban

 

[fidelity]

Good to know. The NRA alert and the Congressional letter doesn't identify the party affiliation of the 238 signatories, so am curious how many are Democrats. Irrespective, this level of Congressional interest (over 50% of House members) should get ATF's attention.

 

[cowboys5time25]

Fox news about to do a segment on this

 

[bama47]

Andy Harris signed it!

https://dcpr00gbauvhc.cloudfront.ne...to-atf-director-jones-apa-framework-final.pdf


House letter to ATF with many signatures. Any Maryland people?

 

[Mr H]

Interesting, but will probably be ignored...

http://www.ammoland.com/2015/03/fraternal-order-of-police-obamas-ar-15-ammo-ban-not-necessary/

 

[j_h_smith]

I read about this last week. I think everyone can agree this is a non-issue. But Obama is going to try anyway he can to do as much damage to the 2A while still in office.

Jim Smith

 

[BinaryBoris]

Unfortunately it looks like the ATF already removed the exemption in their regulation guide as of January:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761

It also doesn't bode well that when asked about the ATF decision, White House spokesman Josh Earnest referred to it as a "common sense" solution. Note that when Obama announced his executive actions on gun control after the failed 2013 legislation, he promised "common sense" solutions.

I hope Congress does get together some kind of bill, but remember that even if it passes Congress you can be sure Obama will veto it immediately.