32ACP

[salopez]

I stand corrected

 

[lazarus]

The only "handgun ban list" is for so-called "assault pistols" like the TEC 9 and 14 others listed by name.

2010 Maryland Code :: CRIMINAL LAW :: TITLE 4 - WEAPON CRIMES :: Subtitle 3 - Assault Pistols and Detachable Magazines :: Section 4-301 - "Assault pistol" defined.

law.justia.com

I think he's confusing the Handgun Roster with some sort of "ban list," which it absolutely is not.

The Roster is notorious for being confusing. People have trouble finding particular guns which are there, but listed under names which people didn't think to look for. Perhaps the Poster works in a gun shop...

In any case, the Roster is not a ban list: it's just a moronic infringement.

What is “banned” are sales of Saturday night specials or particularly dangerous handguns. On the later example, the handgun board is t going to approve a handgun without a trigger guard protecting the trigger.

Possession isn’t illegal. You just can’t sell them in Maryland.

32 and 25 and ANYTHING else is legal for carry or self defense use.

 

[Brickman301]

The .32 Keltec P-32 was never banned in MD

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Documents/Banned%20List.pdf

2018, the Keltec 32 was banned by name. Look at the link, it’s number 33 on the list.

 

[The Saint]

This is why us dealers get so confused. I KNOW it's on the "Disapproved List", but it's on the roster now? Which one is it, MDSP? I personally just steer clear of this model and refer people to the other options that are available in the caliber without confusion. Not worth getting dinged or risking a license over it.

 

[ohen cepel]

Well, md has found a new way to suck and confuse its prisoners.

Not sure when it came off, but (unless I missed it) I didn't see it on the 2022 list of things the serfs are not allowed to have;

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Office%20of%20Equity%20and%20Inclusion/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/HandgunRoster/Disapproved%20List.pdf

 

[Biggfoot44]

I would *almost* say to ignore anything that fails the Stupidity Test , but unfortunately , too much of actual
Md Law actually IS Stupid.

But no , this is not one of them . You may indeed carry whatever caliber you so choose .

I believe at one point, you had to use a .380 or larger for your wear and carry testing.

For "Professional" W&C , ie armed security , private investigators , etc , has minimum caliber . Joe/ Joesphine Public, no caliber requirements .

 

[Biggfoot44]

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Documents/Banned%20List.pdf

2018, the Keltec 32 was banned by name. Look at the link, it’s number 33 on the list.

On the same list shows Seecamp as Disapproved , but I know they subsequently appealed and won .

 

[Mark75H]

What a ball of confusion! What is the appeal process? (I didn't know there was such a process)

 

[Kman]

I believe at one point, you had to use a .380 or larger for your wear and carry testing.

Only in the minds of instructors overly impressed with themselves and misled by their sense of infallibility. It's common.

 

[Doctor_M]

There are plenty of people who carry .22lr for self defense... may not be the best choice, but it is perfectly legal and the gun you have us better than the one you left at home.

 

[traveller]

It's illegal to sell cheap potmetal guns in MD. Most of those happen to be in .25 or .22. That's probably where his misconception originated.

 

[Mark75H]

It's illegal to sell cheap potmetal guns in MD. Most of those happen to be in .25 or .22. That's probably where his misconception originated.

I think it came from misreading the course of fire as noted above. If someone skims rather than thourougly reading one can easily connect sections that do not belong together. The COF for W&C and Security Guards are on the same page - or - bad readers may assume since there is no caliber listing on the W&C COF, the caliber listing elsewhere applies. As proven by the number of instructors that don't even know the required subjects, it's also possible that many or even MOST are just making $hit up

 

[John from MD]

Thing is, none of his fcking business what you do with ammo after you walk out with it.
FCK these people and their shit info.

Come on man, tell us how you really feel.

 

[traveller]

Btw. There is no need to tell a gun store counter person anything. Not whether you are carrying, whether you pooped this morning or that your girlfriend is hot. 'Do you have any .32 ACP ammo ?' and 'ok, I'll have 3 boxes of X'

 

[Biggfoot44]

I think it came from misreading the course of fire as noted above. If someone skims rather than thourougly reading one can easily connect sections that do not belong together. The COF for W&C and Security Guards are on the same page - or - bad readers may assume since there is no caliber listing on the W&C COF, the caliber listing elsewhere applies. As proven by the number of instructors that don't even know the required subjects, it's also possible that many or even MOST are just making $hit up

Undoubtedly some of this.

Non brand new Instructors made their bread & butter business doing Instruction , Quals , and ReQuals for Security Companies who don't have inhouse instructors .

But some Instructors feel that it is their legitimate Moral Obligation to take their students from ZERO to an approximation of near competence , limited only by the available hours . This includes drawing handguns of serious caliber , plus .380 .

As long as :

Both Instructors and prospective students are clear what's on offer

Students who don't reach the higher standards , are still given the option to do the Actual COF , and recieve a piece of paper , aka Poll Tax Receipt .

Those factors met , I'm cool with voluntary participation .

 

[Blaster229]

Come on man, tell us how you really feel.

I think I just did lol

 

[teratos]

Come on man, tell us how you really feel.

F*cking Blaster. Always being vague…

 

[Blaster229]

F*cking Blaster. Always being vague…

How's this for vague?

 

[Doctor_M]

Blaster always recommends .41 rimfire short.

 

[Jake4U]

Out the shop. Who are they?

I carry a 32 occasionally

Me too. Seecamp .32.