3 Round Burst question

[IMBLITZVT]

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I wouldn't choose 3rd burst over FA but if you can have both why not?
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I really don't like having the selector swing all the way around. You can't flip it to position. You have to rotate it to position. Just something I found out when using the kit on one of the M16s at the range. If I had a FNC or another gun with a different selector setup I might go for it. However I don't like it on the M16

 

[ericoak]

I really don't like having the selector swing all the way around. You can't flip it to position. You have to rotate it to position. Just something I found out when using the kit on one of the M16s at the range. If I had a FNC or another gun with a different selector setup I might go for it. However I don't like it on the M16

HK style fits the bill.

 

[IMBLITZVT]

HK style fits the bill.

Every still, just one more position to switch through to get to correct position...

 

[clay pigeon]

More trouble than its worth.

 

[ericoak]

Every still, just one more position to switch through to get to correct position...

I don't use the safety on anything besides my carry pistol. I leave my Mac on full and practice rotating to semi in case I needed to make an accurate shot or long distance.

 

[rico903]

As others stated, yes its perfectly legal to do. The real question is why do it? Yeah its a cool feature to have I guess but do you really want something limiting you to three rounds? Why not just take quick trigger pulls. Also I believe with the way these 3 round burst work, is that if you shoot two shots, you will follow up with a single. In other words you are not reset to three rounds if you are quick on the trigger. The whole idea of three round burst was to limit Soldiers fire capacity so they would not dump mags. Well thats a third party limiting the soldier. Why limit yourself? Just learn proper trigger control and save the cost of the burst kit. From what I hear, most get it, install it and removed it fairly quickly. It makes the selector kind of a pain as it can now turn a full 360. I have a M16 coming and decided against this feature, for what its worth.

You are right about the 1 round reset and I agree with your whole post. I opted against it also. 3 round burst was a hazard in combat as a user would only have 1 round next time the trigger was pulled if he/she only fired 2. Not the easiest thing to keep track of in a combat situation.

 

[IMBLITZVT]

I don't use the safety on anything besides my carry pistol. I leave my Mac on full and practice rotating to semi in case I needed to make an accurate shot or long distance.

As you know, I do the same, never fully trusting any safety other than my finger not to pull the trigger. If you know your gun is always hot, you treat it like its always hot and can't forget that the safety is off.

Rico, Yes thats my understanding of it too.

 

[rsideout]

You are right about the 1 round reset and I agree with your whole post. I opted against it also. 3 round burst was a hazard in combat as a user would only have 1 round next time the trigger was pulled if he/she only fired 2. Not the easiest thing to keep track of in a combat situation.

The burst kit on my FNC resets each time to 3rds, even if you only pop off 1 or 2 rounds.

 

[IMBLITZVT]

The burst kit on my FNC resets each time to 3rds, even if you only pop off 1 or 2 rounds.

Yeah thats why I thought. The M16 3 round burst just is not as nice.

 

[Hopalong]

if 3 round burst is put into guns with really high cyclic rates, ( mac, micro uzi, P90 etc) then it would be awesome.

I could see that making a lot of sense, especially with new subgun shooters. Do such fire control groups even exist though? I'm hardly an NFA expert, but I've never heard of 3-round burst in a subgun.

 

[rsideout]

but I've never heard of 3-round burst in a subgun.

Have you heard of the MP5?

 

[Billman]

Yeah thats why I thought. The M16 3 round burst just is not as nice.

The Ruger AC556 is similar to the M16 in 3 round burst mode. Squeeze of two and the next squeeze gets you one.

 

[Hopalong]

Have you heard of the MP5?

Oh duh.

Thanks. I was hung up on the MAC/ Micro Uzi part of the comment.

 

[bobthefisher]

After shooting my FNC with a three round burst I'd have to agree that it's more of a novelty. There's simply too much recoil with a rifle caliber to get all three rounds consistently on target at medium ranges. Full auto rifle caliber (non-subsonic) firearms in my opinion, are for suppressive fire on a larger enemy forces. However for sub caliber machine guns in a CQB fashion i could see the benefit for close double/triple taps. 300 blank out on a three round burst for CQB would probably be pretty sweet. That's just my opinion.

 

[ericoak]

I think Lage built a prototype 3 round burst closed bolt Mac but the increased recoil from being a closed bolt meant the gun made the gun rise too much.

 

[Blueclawz]

Yes, its legal as long as your weapon is a RR (Registered Receiver).

As many people pointed out already - Burst sucks! In 5.56/7.62 calibers it really sucks. In 9mm/45 its marginal at best. I had a Colt RO635 and it had the Semi/Burst/Auto setup...I always found myself using auto or semi..burst just didn't do anything that a well controlled trigger couldn't already do.

Speaking of triggers...Giessele SSF will change your opinion on FA trigger groups.

 

[SCARCQB]

Instead of a 3 round burst mechanism . I modded my RR16 with a ferfrans SOAR bolt assembly . The Delayed SEAR trip reduces the rate of fire to about 670 RPM. This allows singles, double and triple taps easy.

The addidition of an edinine buffer further drops the ROF that is similar to a grease gun. Slowing down the ROF is much better than using a 3 round burst feature.

http://www.falconops.net/index.php?route=store/product&product_id=218

 

[ar15dave]

Speaking of triggers...Giessele SSF will change your opinion on FA trigger groups.

How is that? Are they that good?

Dave

 

[rico903]

Yes, its legal as long as your weapon is a RR (Registered Receiver).

As many people pointed out already - Burst sucks! In 5.56/7.62 calibers it really sucks. In 9mm/45 its marginal at best. I had a Colt RO635 and it had the Semi/Burst/Auto setup...I always found myself using auto or semi..burst just didn't do anything that a well controlled trigger couldn't already do.

Speaking of triggers...Giessele SSF will change your opinion on FA trigger groups.

Yes it will

 

[rico903]

Instead of a 3 round burst mechanism . I modded my RR16 with a ferfrans SOAR bolt assembly . The Delayed SEAR trip reduces the rate of fire to about 670 RPM. This allows singles, double and triple taps easy.

The addidition of an edinine buffer further drops the ROF that is similar to a grease gun. Slowing down the ROF is much better than using a 3 round burst feature.

http://www.falconops.net/index.php?route=store/product&product_id=218

Have you tried the LaRue gas tubes by any chance for a carbine? My FA nut friend swears by them to reduce muzzle rise and is a big Edinine buffer fan also. I have a couple of sets of each but have not installed them yet. I'll need a smith to install the tubes as he's to busy at work to do it for me. He also said they weren't making those buffers any more. Do you know?