SAF files federal lawsuit challenging G&S in DC

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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,489
    Westminster USA
    Here is the press release:

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    [FONT=&quot]SAF Sues DC Over 'Good Reason' CCW Requirement

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    BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today filed a federal lawsuit challenging the District of Columbia’s highly restrictive concealed carry permit requirement that applicants provide a “good reason” before such a permit is issued, which violates the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

    The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. SAF is joined by three private citizens, Brian Wrenn and Joshua Akery, both of Washington, D.C., and Tyler Whidby, a Florida resident who also maintains a residence in Virginia. The city and Police Chief Cathy Lanier are named as defendants.

    The lawsuit asserts that “individuals cannot be required to prove a ‘good reason’ or ‘other proper reason’ for the exercise of fundamental constitutional rights, including the right to keep and bear arms.” All three individual plaintiffs in the case have applied for District carry permits and have been turned down by Lanier because they could not “Demonstrate a good reason to fear injury to person or property.”

    “The city’s requirements to obtain a carry permit are so restrictive in nature as to be prohibitive to virtually all applicants,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “It’s rather like a ‘Catch 22,’ in which you can apply all day long, but no reason is sufficiently good enough for Chief Lanier to issue a permit.

    “Because of that,” he added, “the city has set the bar so high that it relegates a fundamental civil right to the status of a heavily-regulated government privilege. That is not only wrong, it also does not live up to previous court rulings. Law-abiding citizens who clear background checks and are allowed to have handguns in their homes are being unnecessarily burdened with the additional requirement of proving some special need.

    “The last time we checked,” Gottlieb concluded, “we had a Bill of Rights that applied to the entire nation, including the District. It’s not, and never has been, a ‘Bill of Needs’.”

    The city is still appealing its earlier loss in Palmer v. D.C., the SAF-sponsored case that struck down the city’s total ban on carrying handguns. The courts have not yet ruled on SAF’s claim that the city’s “may issue” law violates the Palmer injunction.

    “We will give the courts every chance to bring Washington, D.C. into constitutional compliance,” said attorney Alan Gura, who represents SAF and the other plaintiffs in both cases.
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    Alutacon

    Desert Storm
    May 22, 2013
    1,136
    Bowie
    On the up side this challenge as to G&S is good in that it is going to end up in front of the DC Circuit. That's good in two ways: first, I think the DC Circuit is much more likely to rule G&S unconstitutional as opposed to what we got from the 4th Circuit in Woodard. Secondly, among the federal appellate courts in America the DC Circuit is by far the most important and/or influential which should carry some weight with regard to broader arguments in the courts across the country as lesser courts look to sister Circuits to influence their decisions.

    On the down side, the SCOTUS has consistently demonstrated a reluctance to take up this issue, so that even if the issue prevails in our favor in DC, it doesn't mean that we are ever going to get a SCOTUS ruling that would govern the law of the land on this issue.

    My two cents!
     

    md123

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 29, 2011
    2,005
    Love it. I hope we get to see Alan holding a $500,000 check from DC after victory as he did in Chicago.

    See signature- won't you open your wallet for our friends at SAF?


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    Gryphon

    inveniam viam aut faciam
    Patriot Picket
    Mar 8, 2013
    6,993
    Excellent use of the funds I donate to SAF. I do not expect the "case" will be held up pending Palmer, since this matter wil almost undoubtedly be resolved on cross motions for summary judgment. However, Scullin can time his ruling however he sees fit.

    This is good all around. :thumbsup:
     

    Maestro Pistolero

    Active Member
    Mar 20, 2012
    876
    Excellent use of the funds I donate to SAF. I do not expect the "case" will be held up pending Palmer, since this matter wil almost undoubtedly be resolved on cross motions for summary judgment. However, Scullin can time his ruling however he sees fit.

    This is good all around. :thumbsup:
    That is my hope as well, but I don't share your confidence.
     

    krucam

    Ultimate Member
    In my dream world this new case would win on a motion for summary judgement based on Palmer, Peruta, and Moore.

    Close...
    SAF/Gura filed a Motion for Preliminary Injunction (doc 6-2) on 2/6/15. They also filed a Request for Expedited Consideration (doc 6-1) in the matter.

    Also, DC asked for and got an extension for filing their response. It will be 2 weeks following Judge Scullin's ruling on the Motion.

    Date Filed # Docket Text
    02/03/2015 1 COMPLAINT against All Defendants ( Filing fee $ 400 receipt number 0090-3982157) filed by BRIAN WRENN, SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION, INC., TYLER WHIDBY, JOSHUA AKERY. (Attachments: # 1 Civil Cover Sheet, # 2 Summons, # 3 Summons, # 4 Summons)(Gura, Alan) (Entered: 02/03/2015)

    02/03/2015 2 NOTICE OF RELATED CASE by All Plaintiffs. Case related to Case No. 09-1482. (Gura, Alan) (Entered: 02/03/2015)

    02/03/2015 3 Corporate Disclosure Statement by SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION, INC.. (Gura, Alan) (Entered: 02/03/2015)
    02/03/2015 Case Assigned to Judge Frederick J. Scullin, Jr. (rd) (Entered: 02/03/2015)

    02/03/2015 4 SUMMONS (3) Issued Electronically as to CATHY L. LANIER, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, District of Columbia Attorney General, and the District of Columbia Mayor. (Attachments: # 1 Consent Form, # 2 Notice of Consent)(rd) (Entered: 02/03/2015)

    02/06/2015 5 NOTICE of Appearance by Andrew J. Saindon on behalf of All Defendants (Saindon, Andrew) (Entered: 02/06/2015)

    02/06/2015 6 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction by JOSHUA AKERY, SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION, INC., TYLER WHIDBY, BRIAN WRENN (Attachments: # 1 Request for Expedited Consideration (LCvR 65.1(d)), # 2 Memorandum in Support, # 3 Declaration of Brian Wrenn, # 4 Declaration of Joshua Akery, # 5 Declaration of Tyler Whidby, # 6 Exhibit A, # 7 Exhibit B, # 8 Exhibit C, # 9 Exhibit D, # 10 Exhibit E, # 11 Declaration of Alan Gottlieb, # 12 Text of Proposed Order)(Gura, Alan) (Entered: 02/06/2015)
    02/06/2015 Set Deadlines as to the # 6 MOTION for Preliminary Injunction: Response to Motion due by 2/20/2015. Reply to Response to Motion due by 2/27/2015. (Scullin, Frederick) (Entered: 02/06/2015)

    02/12/2015 7 Consent MOTION for Extension of Time to Respond to the Complaint by DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, CATHY L. LANIER (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Saindon, Andrew) (Entered: 02/12/2015)

    02/12/2015 8 ORDER: It is hereby ORDERED that the # 7 Consent Motion for Extension of Time is GRANTED. It is further ORDERED that the District's response to the Complaint is due on or before two weeks from the date of the Court's decision on plaintiffs' pending Motion for Preliminary Injunction. Signed by Judge Frederick J. Scullin, Jr. on 2/12/2015. (Scullin, Frederick) (Entered: 02/12/2015)
     

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    rem87062597

    Annapolis, MD
    Jul 13, 2012
    641
    Aren't we going to run out of appeals courts pretty soon? I keep thinking that we're waiting for some sort of appeals court split before the Supreme Court takes it but I'm wondering what will happen when all of the appeals courts make their decision and none of the G&S cases are taken. It's not like the split isn't already there. I'm assuming that it means that we're screwed until we eventually cram a case down the Supreme Court's throat in one of the courts that have ruled against G&S. Short of a change in the SCOTUS justices I'm not sure what will do it.
     

    Brooklyn

    I stand with John Locke.
    Jan 20, 2013
    13,095
    Plan D? Not worth the hassle.
    Aren't we going to run out of appeals courts pretty soon? I keep thinking that we're waiting for some sort of appeals court split before the Supreme Court takes it but I'm wondering what will happen when all of the appeals courts make their decision and none of the G&S cases are taken. It's not like the split isn't already there. I'm assuming that it means that we're screwed until we eventually cram a case down the Supreme Court's throat in one of the courts that have ruled against G&S. Short of a change in the SCOTUS justices I'm not sure what will do it.

    You don't need a carry case to win carry. Anything that leads SCOTUS to give us SS should reopen the issue(IANAL).

    Plus MD refusing to honor out of state permits, creates another avenue of litigation.

    We have a ways to go before its time to worry to much..
     

    MDFF2008

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 12, 2008
    24,765
    Actually the split isn't as large as you think.

    The 7th found that No Issue was no good.

    The 2nd found that May Issue is Consitutional.
    The 4th also found May Issue is Consitutional.

    The 9th found it Unconsitutional, but that hasn't been finalized yet.

    A true circuit split would occur if the 9th upholds Peruta and the other cases.
     

    HaveBlue

    HaveBlue
    Dec 4, 2014
    733
    Virginia
    Close...
    SAF/Gura filed a Motion for Preliminary Injunction (doc 6-2) on 2/6/15. They also filed a Request for Expedited Consideration (doc 6-1) in the matter.

    Also, DC asked for and got an extension for filing their response. It will be 2 weeks following Judge Scullin's ruling on the Motion.


    Thank you for the update!

    Does this mean we should expect a response from Judge Scullin 2/20? Today?

    I found this RSS feed for the DC District Court. https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rss_outside.pl

    Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that the documents can be accessed there. The only source for those appears to be the Pacer system with an account. Is there another way?
     

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