PA woman learns the hard way about NJ's Graves' act.

ryan_j · Jul 8, 2014

It's kind of sad really. She had a LTCF from Philadelphia which means she had a clean background and jumped through hoops.

Now they are trying to screw her over really badly. She could have gotten PTI like any common criminal, but because she's a law abiding citizen they want to throw the book at her.

Bass ackwards innit?

She's being represented by Evan Nappen, so at least she's in good hands. But there's only so much that can do.

It's almost like Sgt Tahmooresi getting arrested in Mexico.

http://www.ammoland.com/2014/07/njs...trol-claims-yet-another-victim/#axzz36vkTPeNF

ryan_j · Jul 8, 2014

I am beginning to think that the prosecutors are the biggest part of the problem. They go to great lengths to deny carry permits and they want to make sure that people doing the smallest "crimes" get the book thrown at them, while the real criminals get a slap on the wrist. Maybe they get some kind of sick pleasure from throwing around this power...

nedsurf · Jul 8, 2014

I look forward to when NJ runs afoul of FOPA or LEOSA in their over zealous enforcement of these laws.

Engine4 · Jul 8, 2014

How many years down the road till an armed citizenry reacts to senseless laws like these?

newq · Jul 8, 2014

I wonder if the NAACP would get involved. They seem to take up issues that involve minorities all the time. Everyone likes to bad mouth them but I would love to see these charges across national tv.

Laws should seek to punish criminals not by chance victims. God i pray for national reciprocacy.

nedsurf · Jul 8, 2014

From the article, what does PTI stand for?

MikeTF · Jul 8, 2014

PTI = Pre Trial Intervention ... kind of like MD's Probation Before Judgement

http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/criminal/crpti.htm

ground chuck · Jul 8, 2014

That's ridiculous, f*ck new jersey it smells anyway.

Brooklyn · Jul 8, 2014

Young black female -- good . this is the kind of photogenic victim we need.

Bad for her, but good for the cause -- sorry she is getting caught up it it, but test cases happen

That NJ is willing to go to trial mans they really think the court is done..

Young black female -- perfect .

clandestine · Jul 8, 2014

nedsurf said:
I look forward to when NJ runs afoul of FOPA or LEOSA in their over zealous enforcement of these laws.

They have done that. They locked up a baltimore city cop a few years ago carrying off duty under leosa.

nedsurf · Jul 8, 2014

I guess one can't put anything past them. Hopefully, many, many settlements like in Chicago will start to weigh on these states and municipalities.

tkd4life · Jul 8, 2014

This sucks for the lady. But this story just makes me realize, their governor is a big contender for the republican presidential ticket. That's crazy.

Brooklyn · Jul 8, 2014

tkd4life said:
This sucks for the lady. But this story just makes me realize, their governor is a big contender for the republican presidential ticket. That's crazy.

He is an R in a D state. What makes you think he runs the state? You can bet he is not popular.

Its also a perfect layup for a pardon even before trial in order to bolster his pro gun creeds ..

if he does we will know he is running..

Make no mistake -- we could get national carry reciprocity out of this case if its a conviction even if a pardon s granted after the fact--- Emily miller is now on Fox news -- nation wide attention -- pretty women will be our pr voice --

Not White not old not male ...

This is the PR game -- yes its unsavory -- but this is the game.

ryan_j · Jul 8, 2014

clandestine said:
They have done that. They locked up a baltimore city cop a few years ago carrying off duty under leosa.

Yeah, the NJ AG really didn't like LEOSA and even sent out a memo saying cops shouldn't carry here. Eventually they came around and even relaxed the rules for retired officers' carry permit.

ryan_j · Jul 8, 2014

Brooklyn said:
He is an R in a D state. What makes you think he runs the state? You can bet he is not popular.

Its also a perfect layup for a pardon even before trial in order to bolster his pro gun creeds .. if he does we will know he is running..

He should give her a full pardon not a half assed commuted sentence like Brian Aitken. He should also fix Aitken's problem by pardoning him.

ryan_j · Jul 8, 2014

nedsurf said:
I look forward to when NJ runs afoul of FOPA or LEOSA in their over zealous enforcement of these laws.

NJ fought FOPA and won. As a result the third circuit ruled that FOPA doesn't really apply to air travel, or rather, transporting your unloaded firearm in your luggage walking through an airport terminal. The case is ANJRPC v Port Authority (fka Revell v Port Authority).

Brooklyn · Jul 8, 2014

ryan_j said:
NJ fought FOPA and won. As a result the third circuit ruled that FOPA doesn't really apply to air travel, or rather, transporting your unloaded firearm in your luggage walking through an airport terminal. The case is ANJRPC v Port Authority (fka Revell v Port Authority).

Which also helps long term .. besides stronger fopa there is the need to federalize airport jurisdiction altogether

This stuff proves to folks that NJ MD CA etc are threats to liberty nation wide ..

Engine4 · Jul 8, 2014

newq said:
I wonder if the NAACP would get involved.

Probably not, because it's really the NAAsCP (s=some).

danb · Jul 9, 2014

wtf is wrong with NJ.

I thought Democraps love single Moms!

pwoolford · Jul 9, 2014

Wow, a state more F'd up than MD. Absolutely sucks for her but I agree this could be good for the cause.

PA woman learns the hard way about NJ's Graves' act.

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