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Old August 24th, 2013, 06:43 AM   #1
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AAFG IDPA

Me and a friend of mine wanted to start shooting IDPA, I noticed that at the AAFG club you must go through a training class and observe a match before you can shoot. Are those done on the same day? We were going to come watch today's match to get that requirement out of the way but then I noticed the next class is the same time as a match, so now I'm wondering if its something you do in one shot?

Any quick answer is appreciated, will be leaving soon!
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Old August 24th, 2013, 06:56 AM   #2
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I don't know. That's a fairly new requirement. My guess is you can do both in the same day. Be safe and polite and you'll fit in. I'll see you there sometime, have fun!


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Old August 24th, 2013, 06:59 AM   #3
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I don't know. That's a fairly new requirement. My guess is you can do both in the same day. It's a bit of an olboysclub, but be safe and polite and you'll fit in. I'll see you there sometime, have fun!
Right, and I can't find a phone# for the club only emails. I sent one yesterday morning but didn't get an answer back yet. I think we will just skip today and find out for sure before making the long trip twice instead of once.

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Old August 24th, 2013, 07:40 AM   #4
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last time I tried the guy said the next class was in sept.. and thus was in july.. I passed


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Old August 24th, 2013, 08:09 AM   #5
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They have a new shooter class each month. You observe a regular match and then get to try a stage dry after. No ammo allowed for new shooter class. Then you're good to go. They will allow you to shoot one match before joining IDPA. After that, you have to be a member of IDPA. You sign up through their Yahoo account online.


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Old August 24th, 2013, 08:14 AM   #6
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I forwarded your question to a few folks at AAFG that run IDPA. I recommend you go, the weather is going to be perfect.


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Old August 24th, 2013, 08:33 AM   #7
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Today is a mixed format (shotgun and pistol) match. It is not listed as a new shooter date. The next new shooter class is 9/14 which is also a classifier match. Not sure if you can just show up to watch.


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Old August 24th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #8
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To the OP and perhaps anyone else. Perhaps I saw you out there today. Contact the match administrator, get signed up for the class, get signed up for the match announcement e-mails and jump through the hoops as they are explained to you. It will take a little time with very little effort on your part, but the matches are fun. The reason for the wait is due to the demand to take the class to be able to shoot at AAFG is outpacing the supply of slots in the class. Please be patient, sign up early and stick with it.

In my experience, the only reason you'll see an old boys club at AAFG is if you show up unannounced and expect to shoot that day. Even I can't do that and I've shot with them regularly for 3 or so years. If an old boy's club is perceived, it MAY be because the place has earned enough repeat business by putting on quality matches that many of us know each other fairly well. If you attended a match and felt left out, please forgive me. I'm certainly not trying to be cold. It may be something I can do better at.
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Old August 24th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #9
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Not to hijack this, but do any of you go to the AR matches? I would like to meet you out there. I have been to the last 3 of them.
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Old August 24th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #10
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Aaron has summarized it very well - thanks for that Aaron. We, by no means, want AAF&G's IDPA matches to seem like an old boy's club. If that is the perception, then I, and especially Jack, Skip and Bill would want to correct that.

It is true that there is a class required to shoot IDPA at AAF&G. We put it on approx. once a month, and we do that to make sure that everyone is comfortable drawing from a holster, understands the range commands and is, above all else, safe. Our club is popular and slots for the class fill up quickly. We apologize for the delay in getting into a class, but this policy helps keep everyone safe and allows us to continue to put on high quality matches at least four times a month.

If anyone in MDShooters land would like to discuss opinions or thoughts or has a question regarding AAF&G or our IDPA club, feel free to PM me, and I'll be happy to discuss. Hopefully, we'll see you at a match soon!

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Old August 24th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #11
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just so I understand completely. no matter how many IDPA or USPSA matches someone has shot at other clubs, everyone shooting AAF&G for the first time must attend the class before participating in their IDPA or USPSA matches, correct?
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Old August 24th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #12
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That is correct. No matter what your level of previous experience or achieved skill level, the course is required. I know that this might seem ridiculous, but it ensures a uniform understanding of the basic rules of the IDPA game as well as some of the specific limitations we have at AAF&G.

We have had all skill levels go through this course. From those who have never drawn a gun from a holster all the way up to a USPSA single stack grandmaster. The USPSA GM took the course without question, and he commented that it was a good idea and had no problem taking the course.

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Old August 24th, 2013, 07:51 PM   #13
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That is correct. No matter what your level of previous experience or achieved skill level, the course is required. I know that this might seem ridiculous, but it ensures a uniform understanding of the basic rules of the IDPA game as well as some of the specific limitations we have at AAF&G.

We have had all skill levels go through this course. From those who have never drawn a gun from a holster all the way up to a USPSA single stack grandmaster. The USPSA GM took the course without question, and he commented that it was a good idea and had no problem taking the course.

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We have recently revised our policy. We now waive the requirement to attend the new shooter class for anyone who is a current member of IDPA and classified Marksman or higher in any division, or is a current member of USPSA and is classified 20% or higher in any division. All others must observe a match and take the safety class.

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Old August 25th, 2013, 09:08 AM   #14
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We have recently revised our policy. We now waive the requirement to attend the new shooter class for anyone who is a current member of IDPA and classified Marksman or higher in any division, or is a current member of USPSA and is classified 20% or higher in any division. All others must observe a match and take the safety class.

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I already participate in IDPA at AAFG (have for a few years now) so this doesn't pertain to me personally; but I'm glad to see this revision to that policy.

Excellent. And thanks for everyone jumping in here to answer the OP's question.

I recently discovered that the NRA has a very similar exemption; the allow IDPA Marksman or better as a approved prerequisite to taking PPITH. Makes sense to me.


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I recently discovered that the NRA has a very similar exemption; the allow IDPA Marksman or better as a approved prerequisite to taking PPITH. Makes sense to me.
PPITH? drawing a blank here.
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PPITH? drawing a blank here.
Sorry. Personal Protection Inside the Home (PPITH)


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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #17
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Ar matches at AAFG are pistol caliber s only.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 06:03 AM   #18
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We have recently revised our policy. We now waive the requirement to attend the new shooter class for anyone who is a current member of IDPA and classified Marksman or higher in any division, or is a current member of USPSA and is classified 20% or higher in any division. All others must observe a match and take the safety class.

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That makes it a little better for those of use who have been doing it for awhile, thanks.


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Old August 27th, 2013, 02:26 PM   #19
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Just wanted to chime in. Ive never shot an IDPA event and stopped by the event at AAFG this past weekend. I had no expectation of shooting, didnt even bring weapon, just wanted to check it out. The guys there were all very friendly and helpful. The guy who runs it explained the need for the newshooter course and it made sense. The bad news is that Septs and Octs are full so the next one I can get into would be Nov. Despite that, I decided to forgo my planned trip up to TCSC to check out their IPSC event the following day since I decided that AAFG was exactly what i was looking for.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 02:53 PM   #20
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Which AR matches do you mean?

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SOGHAP, I'm not sure which AR matches you mean. There's a monthly AR-15 match that's shot on the 100 yd Eccles High-Power Range and is focused on 5.56mm rifles. IIRC, there was an event that was conducted on the Action Pistol Range which limited the rifles to pistol calibers, but that's not the norm.

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