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Old December 8th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #1
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Whats the legal barrel length in Maryland??

Got a New Saiga 12 and it has a 19 inch barrel,I like to shorten it. whats the legal length I can shorten it without it being consider a Class 3 weapon?
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Old December 8th, 2008, 12:16 PM   #2
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shotgun has to be over 18" before things get complicated


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Old December 8th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #3
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My AR has a 14" barrel and I got a 2" flash hider to avoid any problems. Not sure if the same applys to shotguns?


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Old December 8th, 2008, 01:28 PM   #4
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Got a New Saiga 12 and it has a 19 inch barrel,I like to shorten it. whats the legal length I can shorten it without it being consider a Class 3 weapon?
Thinking the same thing, but I may just go ahead and SBS it.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 01:57 PM   #5
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My AR has a 14" barrel and I got a 2" flash hider to avoid any problems. Not sure if the same applys to shotguns?
Rifles must have a minimum 16" barrel, shotguns a minimum 18" barrel. The whole thing is stupid. I've seen average-size men conceal full-size rifles under overcoats.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 07:28 PM   #6
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Rifles must have a minimum 16" barrel, shotguns a minimum 18" barrel. The whole thing is stupid. I've seen average-size men conceal full-size rifles under overcoats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ade7dO8dmd4

I'll see your average-sized man and raise you a scrawny teen with no coat. Not too sure he would be able to do too much walkin' though.....


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Old December 8th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #7
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I'll see your average-sized man and raise you a scrawny teen with no coat. Not too sure he would be able to do too much walkin' though.....
Yeah, I remembered that, but as you said, he can't walk normally with that scattergun down his trouser leg. He'd have to say his leg was in a cast or brace.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 08:53 PM   #8
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16 inches from what I have been told.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #9
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Rifles must have a minimum 16" barrel, shotguns a minimum 18" barrel. The whole thing is stupid. I've seen average-size men conceal full-size rifles under overcoats.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #10
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As already said, 18" for a shotgun barrel, but what has not been mentioned yet is overall length must be 26" and if there is a folding or collapsible stock, it has to be at least 26" with the stock fully extended.
So in other words let's say a shotgun is 26" with a 19" barrel, it would become an NFA device if the barrel is cut. I don't think this is an issue with Saigas though.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #11
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My AR has a 14" barrel and I got a 2" flash hider to avoid any problems. Not sure if the same applys to shotguns?
Is the flash hider permanently attached?

I was under the impression that the barrel itself has to be 16" total, a removable flash hider on a 14" barrel would not be legal (without sbr'ing it)

Its kinda like my 10.5" ruger 10/22, with the supressor on it, its 16" but its still an sbr because the suppressor can be removed. If the suppressor was permanently attached, it would be legal....

i am just curious.


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Old January 31st, 2009, 02:57 PM   #12
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What if you had the shotgun barrel shortened less than 18 before 94
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Old January 31st, 2009, 03:03 PM   #13
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My AR has a 14" barrel and I got a 2" flash hider to avoid any problems. Not sure if the same applys to shotguns?
Is the flash hider welded or pinned? If not it illegal.
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Old January 31st, 2009, 03:30 PM   #14
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16" Rifle
18" Shotgun

Anthing under and you'll need a From 1 & $200.

Having a permentantly attached muzzle breal or flash hider counts in the over all length. But it must be attached in a way that the ATF counts as permenant. No Red Lock tight or other liquid method. They want blind pined and welded.


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Old January 31st, 2009, 03:54 PM   #15
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What if you had the shotgun barrel shortened less than 18 before 94
The law has been in effect since 1934.
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Old January 31st, 2009, 04:30 PM   #16
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16" Rifle
18" Shotgun

Anthing under and you'll need a From 1 & $200.

Having a permentantly attached muzzle breal or flash hider counts in the over all length. But it must be attached in a way that the ATF counts as permenant. No Red Lock tight or other liquid method. They want blind pined and welded.
Blind pinned(pin welded) or welded ?
or
Blind Pinned (pin welded) and brake welded?


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Old February 6th, 2009, 10:18 PM   #18
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At last check high temp. silver solder was acceptable.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 12:07 PM   #19
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As already said, 18" for a shotgun barrel, but what has not been mentioned yet is overall length must be 26" and if there is a folding or collapsible stock, it has to be at least 26" with the stock fully extended.
So in other words let's say a shotgun is 26" with a 19" barrel, it would become an NFA device if the barrel is cut. I don't think this is an issue with Saigas though.
I think if it's a converted Saiga it has to be regulated by MSP because it has a Pistol Grip and a Magazine.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 12:54 PM   #20
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I think if it's a converted Saiga it has to be regulated by MSP because it has a Pistol Grip and a Magazine.
What I meant is that Saigas will still be over 26" if you cut the barrel down to 18".

In MD there is n "features" test for the so called "assault weapons" list except for the Mini14 with a folding stock. There is some question about whether the Saiga 12 shotgun is a MD regulated firearm, but that is for other reasons and has nothing to do with the features like detachable mags and pistol grips for instance.
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