Md permit for armed security?

miles71 · Feb 5, 2016

Armed security guards in md need a permit, usually restricted to work sites etc. However, has anyone tried to get restrictions lifted due to the nature of the security work they do?

I seem to be reading and hearing LEO have now been labeled as "different" then the normal citizen, doesnt some security have some of the same duties or concerns for safety?

Again, why is someone qualified to carry a gun for work in a situation that puts them in harms way, but suddenly when they go home and go to the mail with their families are not, even when the same bad guy could be in either place.

Enough venting.......

TD

Chris · Feb 5, 2016

Only if the agency sends a letter to MSP requesting a change in restrictions for one or all of it's staff. The guard would not be able to on his/her own since it's the agency that has given permission for a permit for an employee working under their license. I'm sure someone else will chime in if I'm not 100% correct on this. Chris

RwWilly · Feb 5, 2016

A security person is protecting property and/or money. They would not be in harms way off the clock. Legal stupidity as I understand it.

redeemed.man · Feb 6, 2016

Chris said:
Only if the agency sends a letter to MSP requesting a change in restrictions for one or all of it's staff. The guard would not be able to on his/her own since it's the agency that has given permission for a permit for an employee working under their license. I'm sure someone else will chime in if I'm not 100% correct on this. Chris

MSP would laugh at a request by a security guard agency to issue unrestricted permits to security guards. The HPRB would likely do the same. Absent verifiable death threats or other G&S the security profession when off duty is no more at risk than the soccer mom.

Chris · Feb 6, 2016

You are right on the unrestricted permit as very few have them any more but they might extend carry from job site to home when off duty. But from what I understand some of the agencies use pass along firearms from guard to the next guard on duty. I see many uniformed guards that are off duty waiting for a bus or going to the post office (big NO NO) armed in the city. I'm thinking either BCPD could care less or their agency has extended duty hours to include travel time from home to job site. Of course some guards will think that's anywhere in between. Chris

LONGSHOT · Feb 7, 2016

if you are a supervisor on call 24/7 they may lift your resrtictions.

redeemed.man · Feb 7, 2016

LONGSHOT said:
if you are a supervisor on call 24/7 they may lift your resrtictions.

Any evidence to support this? I doubt it.

steves1911 · Feb 7, 2016

My restrictions are 2hours prior and post duty. Every other weekend I am on call and thought about using that as well as recent security breaches and threats to see if I could get my restrictions lifted. Seems to be a long process and a slim chance and we are moving to West Virginia next spring so I havent bothered to submit the paperwork to modify my permit.

miles71 · Feb 7, 2016

There are many parallels in some security work and police work. I am talking About a separate permit from the work one security would have. G&S reason would put a person at greater risk than the ordinary person, doesn't doing certain type security work do just that?

I don't mean to have the security company giving unrestricted permits. I mean use the type work as a G&S reason for person being at possible risk.

TD

pitbull · Feb 8, 2016

When I was a bouncer I had people tell me they "would come back for me" one way or another usually once a week. Sometimes even right in front of local pa working secondary each time I asked the Leo if that would count towards a ccw. They usually just laughed. ugh

Biggfoot44 · Feb 8, 2016

To\ from work is common. Once upon a time, supervisors on 24hr call to provide rapid response was semi common, but MSP greatly tightened up if not eliminated 20+ yr ago.

Otherwise requires ususal G&S .

LONGSHOT · Feb 8, 2016

boundlessdyad said:
Any evidence to support this? I doubt it.

idid not say they would,i said they may do-it.

miles71 · Feb 8, 2016

If you are on call 24/7 and the company says you are on duty that should be covered by the permit that says while on duty.

TD

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