I work with a physician who just completed the course recently. He advised that one of the speakers in his HQL noted that once your firearms are registered, they show up on a data field when you are stopped on the road by PD. (not carry permit folks only...and not that it matters) Can anyone confirm?
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- Mar 8, 2013
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Right, that's what I meant, the HQL is no more invasive than the proctology exam to get a carry permit.
Mr H
Banana'd
NICS records (though I forget the detail... 30 days?) are supposed to "go away".
The state considers any "regulated firearm" purchases as registered, so yes... for those they keep permanent records.
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THIS ETA-NICS records must be destroyed the next business day after the check. thanks Hawkeye. good handle BTW
You can move out of state or sell the gun out of state. As far as MSP is concerned, it's still yours because they don't updater the registry.
brilliant.
THIS ETA-NICS records must be destroyed the next business day after the check. thanks Hawkeye. good handle BTW
You can move out of state or sell the gun out of state. As far as MSP is concerned, it's still yours because they don't updater the registry.
brilliant.
Hawkeye
The Leatherstocking
- Jan 29, 2009
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Records passed through NICS are required to be destroyed by the start of the next business day after the check is run. The form 4473 is kept by the FFL and surrendered to the ATF should that FFL ever cease business.
The Maryland state paperwork is entered into a database and that information is kept by the state in perpetuity, thus acting as a registry. The state DOES definitely have your info if you own a handgun or what used to be a regulated long gun.
The only specific records that Maryland has are related to (Maryland) Regulated Firearms. (I.E. a regulated (now banned) long gun or a handgun.) If you have ever purchased either of those in Maryland they have those records. For non-regulated long guns, they have no record because all the paperwork on those is Federal, not Maryland.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
The LEO who pulls you over CAN get that information, if they specifically search for it, but it does not come up automatically.
The 10 day wait was struck down for those that already own a firearm, not for new purchases. And while it is currently overturned, the case is far from finished. It will be appealed and there will probably be a stay on the finding while it is appealed.
But, it could be used to eliminate the 7 day wait in MD, for current handgun owners.
While LEOs have access to the "regulated" list that MSP keeps, it is not directly attached to your drivers license, HQL, or carry permit. As a matter of fact the HQL and carry permit are not attached to your drivers license either, a LEO would have to go look for that in another database as well.
The sphinx
Ultimate Member
The sphinx will be happy to mail MSP my HQL once the MD exit is finalized.
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
- 22,294
Just keep the HQL the more garbage in their database the better for everyone else. Let them waste their time looking for people who are no longer in the state if they ever try to confiscate.
The sphinx
Ultimate Member
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Here's how we could really mess with the database:
We start selling pistols to friendly people in other states. legally of course through an FFL. Then those people sell the same pistol back to a different Marylander. Repeat the process multiple times with the same gun.
Soon the database will be filled with guns which are registered to multiple people, as well as many people listed as having guns they no longer own. The database would become hopelessly compromised and worthless.
Hilarity ensues.
- Nov 14, 2010
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It's simpler to make the database hopeless by taking a few hundred cheap handguns and transferring them continuously between a few hundred MD residents. No need to go out of state.
- Nov 14, 2010
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