The Blue Laws went away and Hechingers went away too. The day the Home Depot opened up in Gaithersburg was the day the Hechingers died on 355 and I was glad to see it. Hechingers was full of assholes who really didn't care about their customers. Good riddance.
Since when don't Sundays count?
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The Blue Laws went away and Hechingers went away too. The day the Home Depot opened up in Gaithersburg was the day the Hechingers died on 355 and I was glad to see it. Hechingers was full of assholes who really didn't care about their customers. Good riddance.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Laughing because you expect people to read the back of forms, let alone the front.
The first time I filled out the form for the national check (4473) the guy behind the counter must have been frustrated I was taking to long because he told me yes and 11 nos. I am not sure I could tell you what the questions are, but I pass the test every time (kidding, for you NSA analysts).
Half-cocked
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- Mar 14, 2006
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Yeah, good riddance! Now we have Home Depot assholes who don't care about their customers! Yay progress!
janklow
Active Member
- Feb 6, 2013
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fixed that for you
- Feb 4, 2013
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Not exactly, read the posted part of the 77R.
If the 7th day falls on a Sunday or Holiday, that day does not count towards the 7 days. So you have to add a day, then pick up the next day.
So if 7th day is Sunday, you can't pick up until TUESDAY. And if Monday is a holiday, then you can't pick up until WEDNESDAY.
So Sundays and Holidays don't count towards the 7 days, IF the 7th day falls on one.
Otherwise they DO count towards the 7 days.
As with other MD laws and regulations, it makes NO sense.
- Feb 4, 2013
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Worse, John Hechinger was a BIG supporter of gun control.
Once Home Depot opened, the only thing my buddies and I would buy from Hechingers is things for shooting (wood for target stands, reloading benches, etc).
Lou45
R.I.P.
learn something new every day.
Sundays do count but only if the eighth day is NOT a Sunday. Also the same applies if a holiday falls on the eighth day, that holiday will not count. Speaking of holidays, if there is a holiday within the count of the eight days, an extra day will be added to the count.
Respen33
Cover Fire Specialist
Many gun shops follow the 10 day rule. Aka since Maryland rarely meets the 7 day deadline for pickup on the 8th, dealers make you sign a waiver stating you can claim your regulated item on the 10th day.
HOWEVER
Should your background come back negative and not able to claim, you shall forfeit your paper costs and return the item immediately.
Sounds like your dealer just doesn't know why the shop had this rule. He just made something up to satisfy you.
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HOWEVER
Should your background come back negative and not able to claim, you shall forfeit your paper costs and return the item immediately.
Sounds like your dealer just doesn't know why the shop had this rule. He just made something up to satisfy you.
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- Feb 4, 2013
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If MD cannot get the paperwork back in 7 days, that is THEIR problem. Like last year, when the court case forced them to follow the law.
And now days, the paperwork seems to be taking 3 - 4 days max. My one dealer doesn't even tell you to call, just come back on the 8th day. And I personally, don't know of a shop that makes one sign a waiver to pick up the firearm.
It is not the responsibility of the FFL to get the firearm back if you are Disapproved after 7 days, it is up to the MSP, since they dropped the ball in getting the work done in a timely manner.
And now days, the paperwork seems to be taking 3 - 4 days max. My one dealer doesn't even tell you to call, just come back on the 8th day. And I personally, don't know of a shop that makes one sign a waiver to pick up the firearm.
It is not the responsibility of the FFL to get the firearm back if you are Disapproved after 7 days, it is up to the MSP, since they dropped the ball in getting the work done in a timely manner.
danb
dont be a dumbass
There is absolutely positively NO EXCUSE for the paperwork to take longer than, say, a traffic stop or a NICS check. None.
The 7-day thing is about a "cooling off period", not to give the police time to process the paperwork.
I was told it's 7 days because back before faxes everything went by mail, and it took MSP that long to do it.
No idea if that's true or not.
No idea if that's true or not.
Mr H
Banana'd
I always thought that to be a poor excuse, just to be able to enforce a waiting period.
SO... someone has a sudden urge to inflict severe harm, they'll willingly wait for a week? Or will they just grab a baseball bat?
7 days was feel-good tripe then, it's just plain stupid now.
SO... someone has a sudden urge to inflict severe harm, they'll willingly wait for a week? Or will they just grab a baseball bat?
7 days was feel-good tripe then, it's just plain stupid now.
Name Taken
Ultimate Member
How can anyone argue with logic a "cooling off period".
Most gun owners have several guns. What is a 7 day cooling off going to do for someone with a safe full of guns?
Not to mention if someone is intent on killing them they can buy a rifle or shotgun and be in and out in 20 minutes with one.
I do not buy into the "cooling off" argument. I feel it was likely due to the time it took the postal service to get applications back and fourth.
Now the question is since we are leap and bounds a head of snail mail why not get rid of the wait or AT LEAST add a line in the law that states "On the 8th day OR if the form is returned NOT DISAPPROVED".
But then I'd guess we just wouldn't see any of them until the 8th day.
Most gun owners have several guns. What is a 7 day cooling off going to do for someone with a safe full of guns?
Not to mention if someone is intent on killing them they can buy a rifle or shotgun and be in and out in 20 minutes with one.
I do not buy into the "cooling off" argument. I feel it was likely due to the time it took the postal service to get applications back and fourth.
Now the question is since we are leap and bounds a head of snail mail why not get rid of the wait or AT LEAST add a line in the law that states "On the 8th day OR if the form is returned NOT DISAPPROVED".
But then I'd guess we just wouldn't see any of them until the 8th day.
Streetgang
OP4
danb
dont be a dumbass
Well, technically, I guess its both. In 1991 the
http://www.volokh.com/2013/12/09/10-day-gun-waiting-period-potentially-unconstitutional/
Back in 1991, maybe it did take a week or two to do background checks. Maryland does an extra check and not coincidentally used to give you the slow no and take their time. Now that Maryland is in the new age of computers and ND are coming back in a day or two, the emphasis Brady Campaign, Smart Gun law and others put on the law is the cooling off period.
Hoisted from the archives (1991), NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/29/opinion/why-i-m-for-the-brady-bill.html
signed... Ronald Reagan.
If I already own 10 guns, what am I cooling off for? I have 10 already.
More MD nit wittery.
More MD nit wittery.
- Feb 4, 2013
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No, the 7 day period came about back when everything went by mail. Faxes were not in common use.
So mail it today, it takes 2 days to get there, 1 day to process, 2 days to come back, and throw in a weekend, and you get 7 days.
Yes, mail locally can be the next day, but say from Garrett County to Baltimore and back.
In those days, I have had paperwork back in 4 days.
Also, it takes longer than a NICS check, since MD checks something like 12 different databases, and they are not linked, so each has to be checked separately. This was discussed last year when checks were taking 100+ days.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
The 7 day period goes back WAY before 1991. Back to 1968, IIRC. But I KNOW it was in place in 1977 when I started purchasing handguns.
foxtrapper
Ultimate Member
Regarding paperwork, when there are 3 pages of MSP forms to fill out and the 1.1 page of the 4473, AND the signing of the MSP mental health form...what was I talking about again? Sorry, I fell asleep after all that.
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