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Maryland Handgun Roster Board Meetings?
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ddeanjohnson
autodidact
- Aug 21, 2010
- 801
Here is the petition form.
Submission of a sample gun is not always required, if the petition is for a firearm model that is very similar to an already-approved model, or a "caliber addition" to an already-approved model.
CypherPunk
Opinions Are My Own
- Apr 6, 2012
- 3,907
Submit a Maryland PIA request for the agenda.
ThisGuy918
Active Member
- Nov 11, 2011
- 233
So they won't approve AK pistols becasue they feel it is a copy of the rifle, but approved an AR pistol? Is this correct?
NateIU10
Ultimate Member
This is their logic, I believe:
AR15 pistols are subject to the ALG list, but may be exempt based on not being a copy (LWRC) or the HBAR exception (Engage E4).
The AK47 "in all forms" is, in their mind, sufficiently broad to subject all 7.62x39 AK pistols to the ban. There is no way 5.56 or other caliber AK pistols can be banned by this however, as the AK47 is 7.62x39, and the Avtomat Kalashnikov category specifically applies to semiautomatic rifles. So, I could see them disapproving 7.62X39 AK pistols (even though it is a list of Assault LONG GUNS), but I see 5.45 or 5.56 AK pistols being approved.
This is mostly conjecture on my part.
ThisGuy918
Active Member
- Nov 11, 2011
- 233
I see your point and sadly agree. Do you feel if the AWB, by magic, does go away could they still deny adding it?
The roster board would still have very broad discretion in what they can deny. You'd be better off just building an AK SBR in the event that the bans got removed.
(Also, LWRC is made in MD, and I am very sure that played a role in allowing their pistols to stay on the list.)
No snow expected for tomorrow, so maybe the board will be able to meet this time and add some new handguns to the roster. Any idea how quick this occurs after a meeting (e.g. weeks or longer)?
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Once a handgun is approved by the board, the notice of addition to the handgun roster has to be published in the Maryland Register to allow for a 30 day public review/comment. So figuring in the time for these milestones, it could be anywhere from 1 to 2 months, depending on when the next Register goes out.
SB281 Blaster
Active Member
Pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles. Just because a pistol has the same receiver as a banned assault rifle, it is not automatically banned. They are restricting pistols by name only. Uzi and Bushmaster for example. Build a pistol with an AR-15 lower and call it a Schrubmaster and there is no reason the Board would not approve it. To help assure approval make it piston driven, however exact interchangeability parts is about copies of rifles to rifles, not pistols to rifles.
I have an LWRC pistol in stock and that is a exactly how it is built. I would submit one myself, but I do not have an 07 license because I am not ready to pay the $2,250 annual ITAR fee.
I'll bet the state wants to keep status quo by telling some not to show up for meetings. This way they don't have to add or subtract guns from the list.
cdstraw
Active Member
Just as a matter of curiosity... How does a person get appointed to the Maryland Handgun Roster Board?
With all due respect, you're incorrect as to how the board currently operates. Go talk to Engage about their experience submitting the E4 pistol. It was originally tagged as an assault pistol because of the "copy of AR-15" logic I gave before. Engage had to protest and point out it was an HBAR, whereupon it needed to be verified by an MSP armorer. Again, I know this is stupid, but it's no more or less stupid than banning all Bushmasters and calling a .22lr Uzi-alike "an Uzi copy".
If you're the governor, you can illegally appoint someone. Otherwise, I believe you have to apply when there's an opening.
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Link to dates for MD Register publication (Maryland FY2014) and effective dates associated with publication:
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/MDRegister/PertinentDates.pdf
For example, if the notice is published on April 4, the effective date of change to the roster is May 20. If published on April 18, effective date is June 3.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/MDRegister/PertinentDates.pdf
For example, if the notice is published on April 4, the effective date of change to the roster is May 20. If published on April 18, effective date is June 3.
My understanding is that the governor appointed one without the advice and consent of the Senate. There was a fair bit of controversy over this at the time.
We need to try to get more of our people on the board as openings come up.
CypherPunk
Opinions Are My Own
- Apr 6, 2012
- 3,907
I know someone who sits on the Maryland Handgun Roster Board.
He is an active member of a local rifle club, and by all appearances and acts is a solid RKBA supporter. In conversation, he states the board members are good people, doing good work. I'm not sure I buy into that 100%, but that is what he says.
He is an active member of a local rifle club, and by all appearances and acts is a solid RKBA supporter. In conversation, he states the board members are good people, doing good work. I'm not sure I buy into that 100%, but that is what he says.
Awesome. Go ask him if the board would approve an AK pistol if submitted. I think we'd all like to know the answer.
Make a large donation to the governor and use lots of knee pads.
