bolt action??? which do i buy

Bisleyfan44 · Sep 16, 2015

BLS27 said:
IDK, maybe I read it wrong... but he said he's not a hunter or a competitive shooter, just wants a bolt gun in his life. One (myself) could only assume from that point that it will be a safe queen or a paper puncher. I gave my recommendation based on that.

No, you didn't read it wrong, it's just that all the ones posing all these questions that need to be nailed down before giving their recommendation and berating others for offering their opinions, DID NOT READ THE OP themselves!!

Blaster229 said:
Yes he did. He did say he was NOT a hunter or competitive shooter. Just said he needs to have a bolt action in his life. Pretty sure that means an inexpensive, all around bolt action.

Which equals a Savage 110

Racer Doug14 · Sep 16, 2015

My statement was in fun..to a point. That being after post #1(the op) he never posted again. A little rude. So everyone gives their .02¢ and never get a reply. I've always replied to my threads and thank those for their advise.

Ranchero50 · Sep 17, 2015

FWIW, My son and I ended up with a pair of .243's yesterday. He bought a plastic stocked Savage 110 for $300 and I ended up with a laminate stock Remington Model 7 for $600. Both had Bushnell 3-9x40 scopes, had similar trigger feel and were equally accurate shooting 30 yards offhand. Only real difference was the Savage was nose heavy compared to the Remmy and the plastic stock has a plastic butt plate that bruised my shoulder. Kid wants a wooden stock for his with a decent butt plate.

Pinecone · Sep 17, 2015

Hmm, not hunter or not competitive shooter is good, but not ALL the answers.

Just for fun shooting? What range? Any idea of cartridge?

Heck, for all around fun, a CZ455 in .22LR meets the needs.

rico903 · Sep 18, 2015

If budget allows it, CZ, in any caliber, or Tika. For less money a Savage.

bm3r · Sep 22, 2015

Hey everyone I too am looking for a bolt action rifle (will be my first)

OP I hope you dont mind me posting here (so I dont create a new thread) :sad20:

I feel the largest caliber ill need/want is a 308

Criteria:

-wood furniture
-must be new
-20" most likely the max

Possible candidates:

Mauser
Cz
Izhmash

Full length wood or partially exposed barrel?

Bipod ok with full length wood?

Scope mounts ok with full length wood?

Thank you!

Pinecone · Sep 25, 2015

WRT full length wood or not, that depends on what YOU want. Not really any performance difference.

Bipod is fine with either. As are scope mounts (scope mounts are on TOP, the wood is on the BOTTOM

).

.308 is a good all around caliber. And good general purpose caliber. But, if you don't reload, /.30-06 has more available factory loadings for different uses.

nerfherder · Sep 25, 2015

Pinecone said:
WRT full length wood or not, that depends on what YOU want. Not really any performance difference.

Bipod is fine with either. As are scope mounts (scope mounts are on TOP, the wood is on the BOTTOM ).

.308 is a good all around caliber. And good general purpose caliber. But, if you don't reload, /.30-06 has more available factory loadings for different uses.

And - during the big ammo drought .30-06 was about all you could find.

Pinecone · Sep 26, 2015

Also very true.

.30-06 is not as popular with long range precision shooters, as you can get almost the same performance out of a .308, but with a short action. .30-06 requires a long action, and many feel if you have to go to a long action, you might as well go to a magnum cartridge.

Racer Doug14 · Sep 26, 2015

bm3r said:
Hey everyone I too am looking for a bolt action rifle (will be my first)

OP I hope you dont mind me posting here (so I dont create a new thread)

I feel the largest caliber ill need/want is a 308

Criteria:

-wood furniture
-must be new
-20" most likely the max

Possible candidates:

Mauser
Cz
Izhmash

Full length wood or partially exposed barrel?

Bipod ok with full length wood?

Scope mounts ok with full length wood?

Thank you!

I don't think the OP will mind..he's on a bit of a walkabout on his thread. Would have been better to start own tho.

Racer Doug14 · Sep 26, 2015

Oh yeah...Savage. :deadhorse:

new_shooter · Oct 19, 2015

traveller said:
I love these threads. It's basically 'free association', a psychiatric technique where the patient just keeps saying whatever comes to his mind after you give them a keyword.

Had the OP just said 'I want a dog' the recommendations would have been:

Dachsen
Chesapeake Retriever
Golden Retriever
Great Dane
Nufie
Bichon
Mutt
American Bulldog
..
..
..

Cat.

Traveler · Oct 20, 2015

nerfherder said:
And - during the big ammo drought .30-06 was about all you could find.

Which is why I sold my .308 and bought a Tikka T3+ 30-06. The 30-06 cartridge is more versatile anyway. More room to go hot or mild.

Pale Ryder · Oct 21, 2015

Pinecone said:
Also very true.

.30-06 is not as popular with long range precision shooters, as you can get almost the same performance out of a .308, but with a short action. .30-06 requires a long action, and many feel if you have to go to a long action, you might as well go to a magnum cartridge.

What is the problem with a long action for distance shooting? For fast follow up shots I understand a quicker (albeit) fractions of seconds for short action. What other benefits of short vs long?

O-Hebi · Oct 22, 2015

Savage. Savage. Savage.

Pinecone · Oct 23, 2015

Pale Ryder said:
What is the problem with a long action for distance shooting? For fast follow up shots I understand a quicker (albeit) fractions of seconds for short action. What other benefits of short vs long?

Nothing WRONG with it.

It makes the rifle a bit longer for the same barrel length. And it makes follow up shot a bit longer.

But the idea is, is why would you want any disadvantage for a very small increase in performance? When you can get a nice step up in performance.

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