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rico903 · Jun 28, 2015

Anybody know the story on BCM? They have been OOS on all of their optics ready 11.5" uppers for over a month now? Do they make their own uppers or buy from someone? 10.5" are also OOS. They do have 12.5"in stock but would really rather have the 11.5"

Wayne1one · Jun 28, 2015

Depends on what you mean by "make". Their uppers are usually in high demand so when they have them in stock you gotta move pretty quick before they sell out... I know they are assembled in house with mil-spec parts etc. I think they out source their barrels, upper/lowers and BCG like other big name companies.

rico903 · Jun 30, 2015

Wayne1one said:
Depends on what you mean by "make". Their uppers are usually in high demand so when they have them in stock you gotta move pretty quick before they sell out... I know they are assembled in house with mil-spec parts etc. I think they out source their barrels, upper/lowers and BCG like other big name companies.

Gotcha. Been checking the site everyday for 6 weeks and always OOS.

friendlyhippo · Jun 30, 2015

why not just sign up for the in-stock notification? seems a lot less stressful than constantly having to remember to look at the site and check.

rouchna · Jun 30, 2015

friendlyhippo said:
why not just sign up for the in-stock notification? seems a lot less stressful than constantly having to remember to look at the site and check.

This. That's what I did before buying mine.

Boom Boom · Jun 30, 2015

Many BCM uppers are in high demand because of how nice they are. They are frequently out of stock. As said above, sign up for notifications if you want one. I've had to wait months to buy ones that were out of stock.

rico903 · Jul 1, 2015

Just did it. Didn't realize there was an option if I clicked on ad to cart. Thanks. Hopefully someone can answer a question I have. I want the 11.5" with the 10" KCR rail. One option is an "enhance light weight upper for $663 and the other is with the hammer forged barrel for about $70 more. Juts curious what the enhanced light weight upper is as compared to a regular upper. They also make an enhanced light weight that is fluted which had been available but does not appeal to me.

friendlyhippo · Jul 1, 2015

You don't have to click add to cart. The option for in stock notification is on the product page.

TWS@Tannermans · Jul 1, 2015

rico903 said:
Just did it. Didn't realize there was an option if I clicked on ad to cart. Thanks. Hopefully someone can answer a question I have. I want the 11.5" with the 10" KCR rail. One option is an "enhance light weight upper for $663 and the other is with the hammer forged barrel for about $70 more. Juts curious what the enhanced light weight upper is as compared to a regular upper. They also make an enhanced light weight that is fluted which had been available but does not appeal to me.

The enhanced barrel is a beefed up version of a lightweight barrel. Heavier contour near the chamber and a slimmer profile towards the muzzle

Mr.Blue · Jul 6, 2015

I'm not a fan of BCM. I have seen and heard of some minor QC problems that BCM wouldn't fix. An example is a new scratched-up upper. My friend tried to return the upper and they gave him a really hard time saying "it doesn't affect the functionality of the upper". I realize that these are not pieces of art, but a tool, but give me a break. If you spend good money on their product, you should get a "NEW" looking upper.

I much prefer Daniel Defense. They are comparable in functionality with DD having superior customer service and fit and finish. I know this first hand, as they are a joy to deal with. I sent my rifle in twice for something that ended up being my fault (my old Colt mags were not feeding correctly). I told them and offered to pay them back shipping. They refused and sent me some free DD swag instead. Great guys.

YMMV.

rico903 · Jul 6, 2015

Just checked DD site. Limited as far as complete uppers and almost 2x as much as BCM.

Ifdot · Jul 7, 2015

Mr.Blue said:
I'm not a fan of BCM. I have seen and heard of some minor QC problems that BCM wouldn't fix. An example is a new scratched-up upper. My friend tried to return the upper and they gave him a really hard time saying "it doesn't affect the functionality of the upper". I realize that these are not pieces of art, but a tool, but give me a break. If you spend good money on their product, you should get a "NEW" looking upper.

I much prefer Daniel Defense. They are comparable in functionality with DD having superior customer service and fit and finish. I know this first hand, as they are a joy to deal with. I sent my rifle in twice for something that ended up being my fault (my old Colt mags were not feeding correctly). I told them and offered to pay them back shipping. They refused and sent me some free DD swag instead. Great guys.

YMMV.

First I've heard of someone having an issue with BCM. I think you are just bitter and trying to justify spending too much money on dd and want someon else to take the hit you did.

Mr.Blue · Jul 8, 2015

Ifdot said:
First I've heard of someone having an issue with BCM. I think you are just bitter and trying to justify spending too much money on dd and want someon else to take the hit you did.

Who are you, Dr. Phil?

I lived in WI, not far from BCM. If anything, I'd would want to do business with them. Like I wrote, they function fine and are considered top of the line from that perspective. They sold a few items that did not have finish and looked like crap. Their customer service would not replace it for "cosmetic" reasons. To me, that is bull. They are also one of those gun companies that make you pay for shipping to send a rifle back for a defect. I won't do business with a company like that. Maybe they've changed.

Notice that my original post read "MINOR QC issues". Didn't you read that, Ifdot?

You sound like someone who is a BCM fanboy. There's my attempt at psychoanalysis.

Here are some posts that aren't pro BCM. Obviously the few instances that I know of where their customer service stunk are not aberrations. That said, I realize that the internet tends to have more negative than positive reviews based on human behavior. My point is just that I am not making this up. Clearly you are not omniscient, Ifdot

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1054531

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/616342_Problem_with_BCM_upper_.html

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/...M_lower___BCM_will_not_exchange_the_part.html

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/914500_BCM_Customer_Service.html

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=138&t=195569

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_138/236503_.html

To me, I'd rather pay up and deal with great customer service. I'll stick with DD and LaRue.

INMY01TA · Jul 8, 2015

Mr.Blue said:
I'm not a fan of BCM. I have seen and heard of some minor QC problems that BCM wouldn't fix. An example is a new scratched-up upper. My friend tried to return the upper and they gave him a really hard time saying "it doesn't affect the functionality of the upper". I realize that these are not pieces of art, but a tool, but give me a break. If you spend good money on their product, you should get a "NEW" looking upper.

I much prefer Daniel Defense. They are comparable in functionality with DD having superior customer service and fit and finish. I know this first hand, as they are a joy to deal with. I sent my rifle in twice for something that ended up being my fault (my old Colt mags were not feeding correctly). I told them and offered to pay them back shipping. They refused and sent me some free DD swag instead. Great guys.

YMMV.

Not a fan either. A guy at the range with us had one and it was malfunctioning. He blamed his ammo. My DTI ran all day.

sailskidrive · Jul 8, 2015

INMY01TA said:
Not a fan either. A guy at the range with us had one and it was malfunctioning. He blamed his ammo. My DTI ran all day.

I like BCM equipment but it doesn't seem any better than Daniel Defense or Spikes. Lots of fan boy hipe.

Ifdot · Jul 8, 2015

Just busting your balls blue!

I honestly don't feel like any one company sells anything that is better than anyone else It's all the same pieces just how it's put together is what really matters.

Mr.Blue · Jul 8, 2015

I love to bust balls myself.

BigT5g · Jul 8, 2015

rico903 said:
Anybody know the story on BCM? They have been OOS on all of their optics ready 11.5" uppers for over a month now? Do they make their own uppers or buy from someone? 10.5" are also OOS. They do have 12.5"in stock but would really rather have the 11.5"

I have 11.5 BCM complete upper that I would be willing to sell. It has been to the range exactly 2 times. Has less than 200rnds fired.
It is has the keymod handguard and functions flawlessly.

PM me if you are interested.

rico903 · Jul 9, 2015

Though I'd pretty much decided on the BCM 11.5" upper, I got an email from DSM arms today and they have a 10.3" DD upper for $230 more. And looking in my RRA catalog they have a 10.5" upper they call a pistol upper, don't know the difference, for $600 so could probably order for less. I've read so much on uppers my head is spinning. Just looking for one that functions. For the time being it will go on an M16 until I get my SBR built and approved. Already sitting on a RRA lower and LRPK from a few years ago so RRA upper may be nice if they work.

friendlyhippo · Jul 9, 2015

rico903 said:
Though I'd pretty much decided on the BCM 11.5" upper, I got an email from DSM arms today and they have a 10.3" DD upper for $230 more. And looking in my RRA catalog they have a 10.5" upper they call a pistol upper, don't know the difference, for $600 so could probably order for less. I've read so much on uppers my head is spinning. Just looking for one that functions. For the time being it will go on an M16 until I get my SBR built and approved. Already sitting on a RRA lower and LRPK from a few years ago so RRA upper may be nice if they work.

They call it a pistol upper to not only impress upon less-educated buyers that it can't go immediately onto an existing lower with a stock, and probably a little bit of that is also attorneys encouraging them to phrase it that way to reduce their liability if someone DOES do something silly like install said upper onto a non-NFA/non-pistol lower.

Basically it's a "gentle reminder" as I like to call it.....a subtle hint.

Honestly, if I were looking to purchase a complete upper, I'd go with the DD mk18 upper. It's a little heavier than many others (especially if you start accessorizing

) but the barrel is CHF/CL...and DD is known for keeping chrome-lined tubes shooting well. Plus, you'll have a relatively close clone (muzzle device is the only thing that really comes to mind) to the mk18 the bearded fantastics like to use.

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