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  • primerk5

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    Some interesting views of the inventory of shell casings that have never had anything done with them.

    I didn't see a post on this sorry if its a duplicate

    Click here for the story
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,488
    Westminster USA
    well that "shoots" the barrels behind the barracks story all to hell.

    More feel good laws that waste money and accomplish nothing.
     

    Mr. Ed

    This IS my Happy Face
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    Jun 8, 2009
    7,917
    Edgewater
    Based on the premise that legally purchased handguns would be used in violent crimes, this program certainly delivered what legal gun owners knew all along... it was a waste of time and money. Collecting spent casings on the off chance that one of them might match one found at a crime scene seems like looking for a needle in a thousand piles of straw.

    The stupid, it hurts.
     

    vgplayer

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 17, 2013
    1,069
    King George, VA
    If you aren't entirely focused and aren't in the know I could see people reading the article and watching the video and think that these are cases are evidence from unsolved crimes. Just the way the article is written it seems to imply that.
     

    ras_oscar

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 23, 2014
    1,667
    Until the Government concedes that there is some evil in the world that is beyond their power to control, we will continue to have "common sense" measures that are not fully thought through.

    Just for my edification; casing tool marks have long been used to match a firearm to a shell casing. Why did the equipment to create the database"never work"? Any idea why the database was never created?
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    Why did the equipment to create the database"never work"? Any idea why the database was never created?

    Maybe because at ~5min/case it would take 12 man/years to scan all.

    That doesn't count all the miscellany to go along with it such as physically indexing the cases so they can be found again, maintaining the equipment, etc.
     

    Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
    18,766
    Only 300,000 cases. Seems like it should be more.

    That number is what interested immediately. How many years they been collecting? Now conservatively that comes to 100K individual gun purchasers, when you factor in all the guys that buy 10 or more. Think even husband and wife each buying. I really contend that Maryland is not an armed society other than the illegal guns in the hood and FUDDS outside the DC area counties.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,121
    "Evidence"?

    "Evidence" of what, other than the Maryland legislature's stupidity and willingness to waste money, and "evidence" of 300,000 LEGAL firearm purchases, while the illegal ones are on Baltimore's streets?

    "Evidence" that the overwhelming majority of handgun purchasers are law abiding citizens.

    "Evidence" in the sense implied by FOX 45 requires a crime. The problem here is that there's no crime, therefore those 300,000 shell casings aren't "evidence."

    The MSP spokesmen who said that the Maryland legislature thought the program should end was extremely misleading, too. They fought it tooth and nail for years, until Hogan was elected and wanted it, and fiscal responsibility demanded an end to it.

    Finally, the story said the brass might be destroyed. Leave it to Maryland to trash something that has economic value when it needs the money that could be raised from its sale.

    Make a monument to the 2A out of it, and place it in Lawyer's Mall so that every Maryland senator and representative is reminded of this past boondoggle each and every time they walk from their offices to the Statehouse to vote.
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    That number is what interested immediately. How many years they been collecting? Now conservatively that comes to 100K individual gun purchasers, when you factor in all the guys that buy 10 or more. Think even husband and wife each buying. I really contend that Maryland is not an armed society other than the illegal guns in the hood and FUDDS outside the DC area counties.

    As a measure of how many handguns are owned in Maryland the figure is useless since it only accounts for those sold after the "database" was created, does not included used handguns or already owned ones.
     

    Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
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    As a measure of how many handguns are owned in Maryland the figure is useless since it only accounts for those sold after the "database" was created, does not included used handguns or already owned ones.

    What year did it begin?
     

    bkuether

    Judge not this race .....
    Jan 18, 2012
    6,212
    Marriottsville, MD
    A liberal's favorite words. "Could".

    And as usual, the real outcome is "Can't"

    Insanity, doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting different results.....
     

    Z_Man

    Ultimate Member
    May 23, 2014
    2,698
    Harford County
    this article definitely made it seem that there are 10s of thousands of crimes just waiting to be solved by these shell casings... if only that machine worked....

    yes because the 300 murders a year by guns in baltimore would all be solved if that magically machine just worked....

    the writer, and editor of the article are either stupid or ignorant...
     

    protegeV

    Ready to go
    Apr 3, 2011
    46,880
    TX
    As a measure of how many handguns are owned in Maryland the figure is useless since it only accounts for those sold after the "database" was created, does not included used handguns or already owned ones.

    Or used purchases that came from other states via ffl, though that number probably pales in comparison to 100Ks
     

    Hawkeye

    The Leatherstocking
    Jan 29, 2009
    3,971
    Only 300,000 cases. Seems like it should be more.

    Well, part of the voiceover said that each one of those boxes holds "100 - 150" shell casings. Maybe it's just me, but those boxes look like they'd hold more than that.

    What year did it begin?

    2000.


    Plus, near the end of the story the reporter's voiceover says that "unlike the Federal system" Maryland's system was never effective because the equipment didn't work. What Federal system? Some bad reporting there.
     

    traveller

    The one with two L
    Nov 26, 2010
    18,426
    variable
    yes because the 300 murders a year by guns in baltimore would all be solved if that magically machine just worked....

    Easy peasy. Just run those casings through the scanner, wait for the matches to spit out and go to pick up whoever was listed as the purchaser. So easy, a caveman could do it.
     

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