MDS Long Range Class with Ed Shell

HoCoAR said:

What do you all use for logbooks?

Premade or DIY
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/AMA/SniperLogBook20081217.pdf
https://www.recoilsports.com/2011/01/diy-rifle-logbook/
http://www.snipercentral.com/product/sniper-central-logbook/

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I use ballistics AE on my phone.

Its easier

Group 5, you need to decide on a date.

Last I saw was June 4/5 or June 25/26

Speak now or .......

Pinecone said:

Group 5, you need to decide on a date.

Last I saw was June 4/5 or June 25/26

Speak now or .......

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I can't do 4/5. 25/26 is good for me

HoCoAR said:

What do you all use for logbooks?

Premade or DIY
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/AMA/SniperLogBook20081217.pdf
https://www.recoilsports.com/2011/01/diy-rifle-logbook/
http://www.snipercentral.com/product/sniper-central-logbook/

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DIY, don't blow money on a commercial product at this point.

Most commercial logbooks out there are a waste of money. The single biggest problem is that they either simply emulate military information or they try to be all things to all shooters. Many are simply plagiarized copies of old military sniper data books, repackaged for profits. Some reorganize the same old information in a more "modern format", LOL. Others will include pages that are quite specialized, such as anatomically correct drawings of heads or intel report pages. Unless the old lady requires an intel report at the end of your shooting session, you'll likely buy these pages and never use them. They all include (sell to you) many pages we would never use (don't want). If they only sold you the pages you need, they couldn't ask $30-$60 or even more for them with a straight face.

You get:
mil tables for items we'll never mil
trajectory tables for outdated loads and/or cartridges we aren't using
target shapes we'll never shoot
field sketch pages we'll never use

But wait, there's more...[/Billy Mays]

The list goes on, just depends on who's book you buy. I literally have a dozen or more logbooks from different makers and almost every one has 50-60% of its pages dedicated to stuff that does not apply to most civilian shooting situations. In addition, even many of the otherwise usable pages have flaws related to outdated ideas. An easy example is only one wind value slot per target, when every shot will usually require slightly differing compensation as the wind cycles. Wind values simply don't stay constant as you fill up the whole page.


You really only need a few columns of data to make your ballistics make sense:
You'll want a header blank for your environmental factors like date/time, temperature, physical altitude, barometric pressure and/or density altitude (no, I did not forget humidity, I just don't care at these distances).

Then you'll want columns to organize your data in such a way that you can find trends and make corrections, as shown below:
Range...Wind Deflection Value...Estimated Come-up....Actual Come-up...Error.

With this information, you can analyze trends in your corrections, true your software and/or modify your data as environmental factors change - the actual purpose of logging data.

94hokie said:

I can't do 4/5. 25/26 is good for me

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June 25/26.

PM Sent to Pinecone about class 5


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saturday cannot get here fast enough

Sorry if I missed it but breakfast 8am tomorrow is at the Mineral Restaurant?

INMY01TA said:

Sorry if I missed it but breakfast 8am tomorrow is at the Mineral Restaurant?

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Yep.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4254241&postcount=173

PM sent about class 5


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Alderleet said:

Yep.

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=4254241&postcount=173

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Read that but it doesn't say where. I got it tho thanx.

INMY01TA said:

Read that but it doesn't say where. I got it tho thanx.

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42 Mineral highway?

Have a blast guys, can't wait to hear the reports.

Pinecone said:

Group 5, you need to decide on a date.

Last I saw was June 4/5 or June 25/26

Speak now or .......

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I am GTG on either weekend. Let 'er rip.

Checking with my buddy, Scott.

Four 6.5CM RPRs w/ Nightforce scopes, two 308 R700s, one AR10. snallygaster a no show.

Looks like a good time, can't wait for June!

Hope you guys ain't getting too much rain today! Hopefully it'll be dry in 2 weeks too.

It rained for maybe 2 or 3 hours but has cleared up now. After lunch we may see the sun for the first time this weekend.

We had two pop up tents that kept us mostly dry. One of the guys in our group had one. And ed had one.

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redsandman6 said:

It rained for maybe 2 or 3 hours but has cleared up now. After lunch we may see the sun for the first time this weekend.

We had two pop up tents that kept us mostly dry. One of the guys in our group had one. And ed had one.

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Glad to hear, have fun guys!

It poured this morning.

Wish I could have made it there this weekend. I am going to miss the next one too thanks to these govt sponsored field trips. I should be there for the two classes after that to act as Ed's umbrella holder.


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