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There's a joke in that somewhere.
Not entirely sure, need to research it. By serial both guns are circa 1916/1917 but early Savage serial numbers are a well known quagmire. the wood is serial stamped to the guns.
Savage also did a lot of options back then, especially on their higher end gun. My other 250-3000 is a straight stock (see earlier pictures).
This thread has been dormant for two months! Hope you all haven't stopped adding levers to your collection. I just got a 1941 production Winchester Model 94 in 30 WCF (30-30)! 
The receiver bluing is almost all gone, but I like this look. It joins the family of a 1979 Model 94 in 30-30 and a 2014 Model 94 in 30-30.
The 1941 obviously represents the apex of American manufacturing pre-WWII ... it's a pre-Pearl Harbor attack rifle ... ironic because one of my Model 94s is made in Japan.
The 1979 represents a transitional time for Winchester. They had corrected many of the shortcuts they had taken with 1964 and later Model 94s, except for the receiver composition - these being more susceptible to bluing loss and rust. Mine has a very small bit of receiver speckling, but I've been taking care of it to see that it doesn't spread. I love the wood on this rifle - the pictures don't give it justice. But despite this return to improved quality with internal components, the company had financial problems because of labor issues. By the end of 1980, they would reorganize as U.S. Repeating Arms and the quality was thought to drop again. They would eventually go out of business in 2006, after which they were acquired by Olin/Browning. It wasn't until 2010 that the Model 94 would resume production, and this was now at the Miroku factory in Japan.
The 2014 is a Take Down variant of the Model 94 - the Model 94 and the Take Down option both being John Moses Browning designs. It feels like my other Model 94s do in my hands - lightweight, perfectly proportioned, and pointing naturally. It's a timeless design.
First pics are the 1941, and then the other two are thrown in ... the one with sling attachment points (added by a previous owner) is the 1979.
The receiver bluing is almost all gone, but I like this look. It joins the family of a 1979 Model 94 in 30-30 and a 2014 Model 94 in 30-30.The 1941 obviously represents the apex of American manufacturing pre-WWII ... it's a pre-Pearl Harbor attack rifle ... ironic because one of my Model 94s is made in Japan.
The 1979 represents a transitional time for Winchester. They had corrected many of the shortcuts they had taken with 1964 and later Model 94s, except for the receiver composition - these being more susceptible to bluing loss and rust. Mine has a very small bit of receiver speckling, but I've been taking care of it to see that it doesn't spread. I love the wood on this rifle - the pictures don't give it justice. But despite this return to improved quality with internal components, the company had financial problems because of labor issues. By the end of 1980, they would reorganize as U.S. Repeating Arms and the quality was thought to drop again. They would eventually go out of business in 2006, after which they were acquired by Olin/Browning. It wasn't until 2010 that the Model 94 would resume production, and this was now at the Miroku factory in Japan.
The 2014 is a Take Down variant of the Model 94 - the Model 94 and the Take Down option both being John Moses Browning designs. It feels like my other Model 94s do in my hands - lightweight, perfectly proportioned, and pointing naturally. It's a timeless design.
First pics are the 1941, and then the other two are thrown in ... the one with sling attachment points (added by a previous owner) is the 1979.
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This thread has been dormant for two months! Hope you all haven't stopped adding levers to your collection. I just got a 1941 production Winchester Model 94 in 30 WCF (30-30)!
The 1941 obviously represents the apex of American manufacturing pre-WWII ... it's a pre-Pearl Harbor attack rifle ... ironic because one of my Model 94s is made in Japan.
The 1979 represents a transitional time for Winchester. They had corrected many of the shortcuts they had taken with 1964 and later Model 94s, except for the receiver composition - these being more susceptible to bluing loss and rust. Mine has a very small bit of receiver speckling, but I've been taking care of it to see that it doesn't spread. I love the wood on this rifle - the pictures don't give it justice. But despite this return to improved quality with internal components, the company had financial problems because of labor issues. By the end of 1980, they would reorganize as U.S. Repeating Arms and the quality was thought to drop again. They would eventually go out of business in 2006, after which they were acquired by Olin/Browning. It wasn't until 2010 that the Model 94 would resume production, and this was now at the Miroku factory in Japan.
The 2014 is a Take Down variant of the Model 94 - the Model 94 and the Take Down option both being John Moses Browning designs. It feels like my other Model 94s do in my hands - lightweight, perfectly proportioned, and pointing naturally. It's a timeless design.
First pics are the 1941, and then the other two are thrown in ... the one with sling attachment points (added by a previous owner) is the 1979.
Those are nice, haven't bought a lever gun in a while!
Ha, don't go to Gunrunners in Frederick then! Bob's been getting in a bunch of old levers recently. Saw a Winchester 94 in 357 Magnum - Trails End with large lever loop and saddle ring - on the wall today in great condition - US production when they were still Winchester (vs US Repeating Arms). I avoided cycling the action or even touching it as I would probably put a deposit on it afterwards. As you know, US-made Winchesters in pistol calibers aren't frequently put up for sale.
Ya, they are not super rare but not super common. Usually $$$s for ones pre-safety.
Man, that is one sweet rifle, and for a lot of reasons. I bet the quality of workmanship on it is off the scale being a pre-attack 1941 production gun. While any pre-64 is always going to fetch a premium, it won't be the premium of a pre-1899 "antique" Winchester, which means that it's a shooter (at least to me) and not a safe queen. I have a safe queen Winchester - I love the fact that I have it, but at some point I think it would be nice to get a modern copy as a shooter.This thread has been dormant for two months! Hope you all haven't stopped adding levers to your collection. I just got a 1941 production Winchester Model 94 in 30 WCF (30-30)!
The 1941 obviously represents the apex of American manufacturing pre-WWII ... it's a pre-Pearl Harbor attack rifle ... ironic because one of my Model 94s is made in Japan.
Nice score on that!
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Thank you! I do plan to shot it - in fact I plan to take all three 30-30s out to the range to run some rounds through. I doubt that I'll perceive much of a difference - but the comparison needs to be done.
A Winchester-Miroku '73 is a very very sweet rifle!
I concur.
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54rndball
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My Savage 99 in .300 Savage.
And here at AGC:
You can't get them for this price anymore:
And here at AGC:
You can't get them for this price anymore:
My Savage 99 in .300 Savage.
And here at AGC:
You can't get them for this price anymore:
The totally undervalued lever action.
54rndball
take to the hills
Another one of my favorite lever gun:
This is my plinker, a Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum. Manufactured by J.M. Marlin before the disaster of the acquisition by Remington :
This is my plinker, a Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum. Manufactured by J.M. Marlin before the disaster of the acquisition by Remington :
Congrats. Does it say "U.S. Repeating Arms" on the barrel? If so, then made in 1981 or later.
Cool.
I can't attest to the veracity of what I previously wrote (quoted below), but it was based on what I've read at other firearm forums.
Your 1980 receiver is also in better shape than my 1979. Wish I had time this weekend to take out the 30-30s to the range.
The pictures don't show it but mine does have some speckling on it. The seller stated it in the listing. When its oiled, its hard to see except under natural daylight.
So did the other 2 I looked at before getting this one. Those had more dings and wood was not as good.
So did the other 2 I looked at before getting this one. Those had more dings and wood was not as good.
If anyone is interested, we just got in on consignment several collectible/commemorative lever actions. Marlin, Winchester and Uberti models. some great calibers too, .218bee, 44-40, 38-55 and of course 30-30. All are new in box as reported by seller and they appear that way as well. Stop by on a Weds evening to check them out.
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