Hellrazr78
Active Member
It was always my understanding that a handguard cannot count towards OAL.
I've been thinking of getting the pistol version, I was thinking though, if HPA does pass, won't Maryland just add Suppressors to the evil feature list? And thus making this whole thing even more complicated, especially with the CZ Scorpion?
Suppressors are technically already on the "evil features" list, because they suppress the flash of the firearm (I think "redirect from the field of view of the shooter" is the term in the statute...) so they count as a "flash suppressor" toward the copycat test.
As long as you don't also have either a grenade launcher or a folding stock on the same rifle, you're fine.
Also, saying that they'll "just add them" would take an act of the legislature to amend the bill.
Not sure if this idea was brought up the forum before. But, take a look at this;
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-scorpion-evo-3-s1-pistol-w-flash-can/
This specific model appears to have the carbine version handguard, CZ flash can attached to the same 7.7" barrel, and extend OAL by 4 inches. Would this specific model (91353) or at least the same configuration pass the MD SBR 29" OAL rule, even with the stock CZ 922r kit?
Looks like the carbine-length handguard solution is in! Engage coming through once again.
Link: https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=208841
From reading many posts here I thought using the handguard as part of the OAL if it extends past the muzzle was verboten?
Maybe, their post explicitly says it's not welded and the micro flash can is only 1.75" long. If that's what it looks like when you chop down a 16" carbine I might be investigating that. If it hides a 3-lug I'm in (for use with suppressor outside MD obviously).I'm going to assume that the barrel was extended under the handguard. Only way I can think of.
Maybe, their post explicitly says it's not welded and the micro flash can is only 1.75" long. If that's what it looks like when you chop down a 16" carbine I might be investigating that. If it hides a 3-lug I'm in (for use with suppressor outside MD obviously).
Why outside of Maryland?
Suppressor is considered a flash hider, so folding stock + flash hider triggers FSA 2013.
i so wish there was video and/or detailed photos of this procedureYou can pin a CZ Evo stock pretty easily. I did mine to use a suppressor. IIRC: (Im going from memory)
* drive out hinge pin
* drive cross roll pin out that allows sliding rear half to come out
* from the front drive the roll pin out that holds the button in. Drive it towards the rear where the sliding stock half used to be. Do not let the spring/button shoot off!
* put a short dowel inside the spring (under the button) so you can't push the button the whole way in to open the folding mechanism anymore. You still want a little play here.
* holding dowel/spring/button in place, test fit it back on the gun by hooking the latch first and swinging the hinge side into place. If the dowel it too long, you won't be able to get it back on. You want it so that it kind of 'pops' in. Test you can't push the button enough to get the latch to release. When you are happy w/ the length of your dowel, pop the stock back off.
* holding dowel/spring/button in place, put the roll pin back in from the front to capture everything again.
* put it back on the gun. Again, hook the latch side first and swing the hinge side into place. Put hinge pin back in. Double check you can not press the button in enough to open it.
* Put sliding part of stock back on and put its cross pin back in.
* mount suppressor and go shooting in MD