Gratuitous loan question

[teratos]

Can I loan an non-HBAR AR to a friend?

 

[Traveler]

YOU of all people know the answer to that.

 

[Inigoes]

Yep

Just hope they do not have to use it for protection, otherwise you are going to answer a lot of hard questions after it is traced.

If this is for shooting at a range, no big deal.

 

[teratos]

YOU of all people know the answer to that.

I know, I know.......

 

[Boom Boom]

On one hand, there's not one word in FSA2013 about loaning firearms. MD case law says you can. Technically, the answer is yes. I personally wouldn't for a non-HBAR AR unless the person I'm loaning to has their HQL. CYA.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Not if he grinds the serial number off first.

Dear ATF: I'm joking.

 

[teratos]

On one hand, there's not one word in FSA2013 about loaning firearms. MD case law says you can. Technically, the answer is yes. I personally wouldn't for a non-HBAR AR unless the person I'm loaning to has their HQL. CYA.

That's how I look at it. A loan is not a transfer of ownership, it is a transfer of possession. IANAL.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

I'd be more concerned about magazine transfer.

Unless you have some 10 rounders laying around.

 

[teratos]

I'd be more concerned about magazine transfer.

Unless you have some 10 rounders laying around.

Excellent point.

 

[Traveler]

There are sooooo many ways this could go wrong. Just loan them a shotgun.

 

[Boom Boom]

That's how I look at it. A loan is not a transfer of ownership, it is a transfer of possession. IANAL.

... and MD case law says transfer of possession (loans) can be indefinite, meaning that eternity qualifies. 10-round mags or less as stated above.

 

[Boom Boom]

There are sooooo many ways this could go wrong. Just loan them a shotgun.

Best post yet. Preferably an O/U or SxS to keep it stupid simple.

 

[teratos]

... and MD case law says transfer of possession (loans) can be indefinite, meaning that eternity qualifies. 10-round mags or less as stated above.

Yet loans are legal.
I have a 10 round magazine.....

 

[Dr Dano HPR]

This is a good question. I remember during the '68 Riots our neighbor behind us lent my father a pistol and ammo "just in case". Dad returned it soon after events subsided and bought his own. What are we now allowed to lend family, friends, or neighbors and how do we do it legally? Do we need to execute some kind of written document or is a handshake good enough?

 

[Boom Boom]

This is a good question. I remember during the '68 Riots our neighbor behind us lent my father a pistol and ammo "just in case". Dad returned it soon after events subsided and bought his own. What are we now allowed to lend family, friends, or neighbors and how do we do it legally? Do we need to execute some kind of written document or is a handshake good enough?

As I mentioned above, I wouldn't do it unless the person I'm loaning to has their HQL. Otherwise the gray zone is not worth the risk, IMO.

 

[teratos]

As I mentioned above, I wouldn't do it unless the person I'm loaning to has their HQL. Otherwise the gray zone is not worth the risk, IMO.

Retired, career army.

 

[Boom Boom]

Retired, career army.

Good to go then. Exempted. Proceed.

 

[Objee]

I personally wouldn't for a non-HBAR AR unless the person I'm loaning to has their HQL. CYA.

HQL is for handguns not rifles.

 

[Boom Boom]

HQL is for handguns not rifles.

The rifle in question was regulated and is now banned. Like I said, it's about CYA. Never forget that most of MD state govt hates you with a passion.

 

[Blacksmith101]

Tell them to buy a HBAR before they are all sold out because of the riots, cash and carry just like any other long gun.