is any firearm from 1965 now a c&r?
Yes. MD ban list overrides where applicable. NFA also applies, as usual.
I think he's asking if a gun with a date code of December 1965 or serial number that was made anytime during 1965 qualifies even if its the very last number on the 1965 list
It would qualify. Only year of manufacture matters, not month.
saw that, it states
Have been manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; or
which means exact day of the year is relivent
but was wondering where/if this could be confirmed, maybe via an atf ruling
but was wondering where/if this could be confirmed, maybe via an atf ruling
Stop bashing your head against the wall because you can. Year of manufacture has always been the rule. It's virtually impossible to know month of manufacture on most vintage firearms. Determining the year on some of them is bad enough, especially ones without serial numbers. Even manufacturers still in business probably don't know the month for their old C&R-eligible stuff.
Stop bashing your head against the wall because you can. Year of manufacture has always been the rule. It's virtually impossible to know month of manufacture on most vintage firearms. Determining the year on some of them is bad enough, especially ones without serial numbers. Even manufacturers still in business probably don't know the month for their old C&R-eligible stuff.
Untrue. I was able to acquire a 1964 vintage Ruger Blackhawk via C&R because I took the time to call Ruger and confirm that it was produced 50years and 1 month prior.
Can't speak to other manufacturers, but the rep that answered the phone at Ruger was able to provide a month but not a day.
Manufactured or first shipped? Not the same thing. I'll bet Ruger meant original ship date, same as old Colt records. Yet ATF C&R rules specify "manufactured" if I'm not mistaken. See the problem? What if a gun was manufactured in a different year than it first shipped? Perhaps a year or more apart in isolated cases I'm aware of. ATF C&R rules do not specifically address it, because they know they cannot. Instead, ATF looks to known manufacturer records about what serial number ranges apply to which year (month is irrelevant), even though exactly what those serial number ranges mean can be vague (manufactured versus first shipped conundrum). In short, just go with ATF's flow.
is there any document that confirms this?
i inquired about a 1965 vintage and got this
Since we can not verify when in 1965 it was manufactured, just to be safe, we are going to wait until 2016 before we can send it to a C&R holder.