Glad I checked back on this thread. Having the captain around is a valuable asset! Thanks for your advice.
Glad I checked back on this thread. Having the captain around is a valuable asset! Thanks for your advice.
I will surely take your word for this Jack, but have to ask out of curiousity. The regulations state that any wearing, carrying, or transporting of handguns by a permit holder while "under the influence" shall constitute cause for revocation of permit. It does not say intoxicated. So wouldn't consuming just 1 alcoholic beverage technically make a person under the influence, therefore prohibiting any alcohol consumption while carrying?You are not prohibited from consuming alcohol while carrying with a permit. Intoxication would require proof similar to that of a DUI arrest. You would not be compelled to submit to any tests though.
I have been carrying for almost 20 years as an leo. I am pretty adamant about no drinking while carrying. Mainly because any alcohol violation while carrying is a fireable offense.Heatseeker i realize you addressed the question the Captain, but I stumbled across it while drinking my coffee. Your interpretation of the law is flawed. To be under the influence under the law requires the substance use to manifest itself in an observable and measureable impairment. You can drink a beer and not be under the influence when you drive a car. Same for carrying. I am not advocating alcohol and guns, but if your interpretation was correct blood alcohol content would be meanigless. The mere existence of any alcohol would expose you to an automatice dui charge, and that is not the way it works.
I am on the same page. Not one drink. I went to an after Halloween party Saturday in No. VA. I was carrying and had no intention to drink. I ended up accepting one beer after I went out to the car and secured my gun in a vehicle safe. I did not have any other drinks. Even one beer is enough for me not to carry. It is a personal choice and it is about what could be said if I did use the gun in a defense scenario. Prosecutors make legal actions seem illegal to uneducated jurors every day for a living.I have been carrying for almost 20 years as an leo. I am pretty adamant about no drinking while carrying. Mainly because any alcohol violation while carrying is a fireable offense.
I understand one drink while out you won't be hammered. However, while out, you were seen drinking. Let's say you shot someone after that one drink. The conundrum of the perception that you were "at the bar drinking" is a tough addition to an already tough self defense case you will go through.
I don't even know why the legal minutiae of drinking while carrying should be debated. Don't do it. Not one sip.
People carry because they never know when they might need it. That time might be when you were seen leaving a bar.
I've always said if I were in a shooting, I am immediately volunteering for a blood test to eliminate any question at all that there may have been any alcohol involvement.
I drink. It can be said by others that I do, so that means it could be brought up at trial. I want to nip that in the bud immediately before it even comes up.
It just sounds like some here are making the argument it might be ok to have some while carrying
(playing the probably cause odds until you actually get caught)
Prosecutors make legal actions seem illegal to uneducated jurors every day for a living.
This ^^ is the point I am pushing!I have been carrying for almost 20 years as an leo. I am pretty adamant about no drinking while carrying. Mainly because any alcohol violation while carrying is a fireable offense.
I understand one drink while out you won't be hammered. However, while out, you were seen drinking. Let's say you shot someone after that one drink. The conundrum of the perception that you were "at the bar drinking" is a tough addition to an already tough self defense case you will go through.
I don't even know why the legal minutiae of drinking while carrying should be debated. Don't do it. Not one sip.
People carry because they never know when they might need it. That time might be when you were seen leaving a bar.
I've always said if I were in a shooting, I am immediately volunteering for a blood test to eliminate any question at all that there may have been any alcohol involvement.
I drink. It can be said by others that I do, so that means it could be brought up at trial. I want to nip that in the bud immediately before it even comes up.
It just sounds like some here are making the argument it might be ok to have some while carrying
(playing the probably cause odds until you actually get caught)
I am not trying to interpret the law, just opining on it.....and unfortunately speaking from experience. Many years ago I found myself in a situation where there was no observable or measurable impairment with a BAC well below the impaired level. However I still suffered the consequences of being declared under the influence. This was after consuming 2 Coors Lights. So you see the mere existence of any alcohol did expose me to an automatic DUI charge. Thankfully it did not expose me to an automatic conviction, just a lot of stress and a huge pain in the wallet.Heatseeker i realize you addressed the question the Captain, but I stumbled across it while drinking my coffee. Your interpretation of the law is flawed. To be under the influence under the law requires the substance use to manifest itself in an observable and measureable impairment. You can drink a beer and not be under the influence when you drive a car. Same for carrying. I am not advocating alcohol and guns, but if your interpretation was correct blood alcohol content would be meanigless. The mere existence of any alcohol would expose you to an automatice dui charge, and that is not the way it works.
HOW TO APPLY FOR A MARYLAND CARRY PERMIT
1. Get a Republican Governor elected.
Take it ur self. Fed government has a passport website to crop and easily resize pic.What's everyone doing for photos?
Interesting. I paid CVS to do mine. Didn't want to hear any shit about it being too big, to small, ....too ugly.Take it ur self. Fed government has a passport website to crop and easily resize pic.