No more SBRs

[aaronn]

Yep. It stays in that status until approved.

Awesome. Thank you.

 

[swinokur]

But, if you had made it into a pistol before 10-1 and before you put in a Form 1, what happens then ?

I don't know. But maybe MD says you're making and possessing a copycat after 10-1 and therefore prohibited. I don't think they care what it was before 10-1 as long as it was a complete SBR or a pistol.. What they seem to be saying is you're making a copycat after 10-1 and therefore illegal if OAL < 29"

Only my opinion.

IANAL.

ETA-As Chad pointed out, this is MD law that the NFA Branch is enforcing, not federal law. They do what MSP tells them to do in this regard.

 

[RSshootingsports]

Started the process on putting together trust documents this morning with the intention of building a SBR. Looks like I picked a poor time to try and get into this.

 

[rbird7282]

Started the process on putting together trust documents this morning with the intention of building a SBR. Looks like I picked a poor time to try and get into this.

You can still build an SBR, it just needs to be >29" OAL. (at least for now)

 

[Pinecone]

Also a VERY good time, as approvals are taking about 3 weeks, rather than 9 months.

 

[rico903]

Also a VERY good time, as approvals are taking about 3 weeks, rather than 9 months.

ATF approvals?

 

[pwoolford]

ATF approvals?

Yes, form 1 approvals are running 3-4 weeks lately if submitted online.

 

[dogbone]

Yes, form 1 approvals are running 3-4 weeks lately if submitted online.

The only downside to this news is I now have less time to scrape together the cash for my SBR upper. If only the Form 4 for my can would come back as quickly.

 

[Pinecone]

You don't need to have the upper when you get your approval. You can do it later.

Yeah, wish Form 4s were that quick.

 

[dogbone]

You don't need to have the upper when you get your approval. You can do it later.

Yeah, wish Form 4s were that quick.

I know I don't need it, but I sure as hell want it and that feeling is going to be harder to deal with once I have an approved Form 1 in my hands. Not like you can actually hold a PDF in your hands but you know what I mean.

 

[Pinecone]

You could borrow one just to see how it feels.

But that might not help.

 

[jmike1487]

You can still build an SBR, it just needs to be >29" OAL. (at least for now)

I'm sure this has been asked already and yes i used the search function. But I have a lower that was transferred as 0 other and i make pistol out out of it and added the sig brace. My upper is 10.5 long. what is the OAL length it needs to be for it be considered a pistol? I am thinking about doing a sbr down the line but i think adding a 6 position collapsible stock with the 10.5 upper it might not be considered a SBR due to the length..

 

[Broncolou]

I'm sure this has been asked already and yes i used the search function. But I have a lower that was transferred as 0 other and i make pistol out out of it and added the sig brace. My upper is 10.5 long. what is the OAL length it needs to be for it be considered a pistol? I am thinking about doing a sbr down the line but i think adding a 6 position collapsible stock with the 10.5 upper it might not be considered a SBR due to the length..

A rifle barrel cannot be less than 16" long w/o the muzzle device attached unless pinned/soldered/welded per atf guidelines.
Once you make it a pistol (only if it was never assembles as a rifle) there are no restrictions on barrel length. You have to use a pistol tube and/or sig brace, any other type of rifle stock makes it an SBR.

 

[Pinecone]

A 10.5" barrel with a standard collapsible/telescping stock is about 29.5" long. So you are good to go to make it into an SBR. But, as it has less than a 16" barrel, it cannot be turned into a rifle, just an SBR (with tax stamp)

There are no length requirements for pistols. Except that it has to be over 26" if you want a vertical foregrip. Angled foregrips are OK at any overal length.

 

[jmike1487]

Thanks guys

 

[DubTap21]

Good info in here. Thanks.

 

[hogarth]

If anyone is interested, I FINALLY got my tax stamp yesterday on a Form 1 for a Sig P556. I got the pistol last summer, submitted to MSP in September, got that back in January and sent to BATFE, and got stamp yesterday. So now I can put the pistol upper on a rifle lower (on Sigs, the upper has the serial #, not the lower), and voila.

Oddly, no mention of "2 features". OAL is 30".

 

[swinokur]

what 2 features does it have?

 

[hogarth]

what 2 features does it have?

A folding stock and a FH.

 

[swinokur]

I think NFA Branch is focused on OAL > 29"

be careful