Can I mail myself a 30 round mag?

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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    You can mail yourself a rifle you owned prior to Oct 1, 2013. No such exemption exists for magazines.

    IANAL

    ETA-not meaning to chide, please read MD 281 before proffering bad legal advice. You can get someone in trouble.
     

    ericoak

    don't drop Aboma on me
    Feb 20, 2010
    6,807
    Howard County
    You can mail yourself a rifle you owned prior to Oct 1, 2013. No such exemption exists for magazines.

    IANAL

    What exemption? The law says you can mail any weapon you legally own, just like you can mail any magazine to yourself that you legally own. There is no exemption.

    Obviously you are breaking the law if you mail yourself a gun that is illegal to posses in MD. Possessing 30 round magazines isn't illegal.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    You can possess the rifle only if you owned it before Oct 1, 2013. You cannot RECEIVE any magazine greater than 10 rounds no matter when it was purchased. The operative word is RECEIVE.

    I could have bought a 30 round magazine 2 years ago in Georgia and left it with you. I cannot now mail it to myselfd in MD. I can ship a rifle I bought before Oct 1, 2013. That's the difference.
     

    jonnyl

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 23, 2009
    5,969
    Frederick
    Here's the letter I referenced above. From the AG and how they interpret "receive" (for handguns in this context).
     

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    natsb

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 18, 2013
    1,293
    southern MD
    Okay, I did some more homework and found information at the TSA that I cannot carry the mags, they must be boxed and put in checked-in luggage.

    http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/firearms-and-ammunition

    Item
    Parts of Guns and Firearms (e.g., frames, receivers,ammunition clips, magazines) Carry-on/Check-in No/Yes

    Sorry to sound anal, but... Would Maryland say I am in the same situation as with the Postman? Am I receiving the mag from the baggage handlers?

    Whoever said "the law is an ass" must have been from Maryland.
     
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    ericoak

    don't drop Aboma on me
    Feb 20, 2010
    6,807
    Howard County
    You can possess the rifle only if you owned it before Oct 1, 2013. You cannot RECEIVE any magazine greater than 10 rounds no matter when it was purchased. The operative word is RECEIVE.

    I could have bought a 30 round magazine 2 years ago in Georgia and left it with you. I cannot now mail it to myselfd in MD. I can ship a rifle I bought before Oct 1, 2013. That's the difference.

    Huh? You said yourself you bought the magazines, therefore you received them in GA.

    Just like you could have bought an AR-15 two years ago, left it with me, then come back and mail it to yourself. It is the exact same thing.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    TSA prohibits firearms or FIREARM PARTS in carry on bags. The exception is optics.

    IANAL,but I don't thinking taking possession of an item you had in your possession before the flight would be receipt.

    But IANAL
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    If you put the mag in your luggage, you did not transfer or receive it IN MD.

    To get technical for a second, if you have to put the magazines in checked luggage, wouldn't you be receiving them from the airline/baggage handlers at baggage pickup in the MD airport? How is that different from a mailman?

    Doesn't NY use this airline argument as a punishable crime?

    Lol, I see this question above now.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    I don't know, but given the option of putting them in your luggage or exposing them to the US Mali, I'd go with number one.

    The difference I'm trying to explain is the reception of a LG you purchased before Oct 1 is ok. Receipt of a magazine greater than 10 rounds no matter when it was purchased is not.

    Period.
     

    ericoak

    don't drop Aboma on me
    Feb 20, 2010
    6,807
    Howard County
    If you put the mag in your luggage, you did not transfer or receive it IN MD.

    Lets say I put the mags in my luggage then I mail the luggage to myself. Do you really think the law treats the airline handing you your luggage and the USPS handing you your luggage differently?
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    I don't know, but given the option of putting them in your luggage or exposing them to the US Mali, I'd go with number one.

    The difference I'm trying to explain is the reception of a LG you purchased before Oct 1 is ok. Receipt of a magazine greater than 10 rounds no matter when it was purchased is not.

    Period.

    Got the firearm point.

    This is an interesting discussion.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    Huh? You said yourself you bought the magazines, therefore you received them in GA.

    Just like you could have bought an AR-15 two years ago, left it with me, then come back and mail it to yourself. It is the exact same thing.


    Receiving them in GA is legal. Receiving them in MD is not. MD law does not apply to purchases made in another state.
     

    ericoak

    don't drop Aboma on me
    Feb 20, 2010
    6,807
    Howard County
    Receiving them in GA is legal. Receiving them in MD is not. MD law does not apply to purchases made in another state.

    Why is receiving your magazines back from the airlines different than receiving them from the mailman?

    In both cases a third party transported your magazines across state lines and then handed them back to you.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,506
    Westminster USA
    I don't know, but as I said, I'd prefer to receive an item, I had in my possession prior to the flight, not received from a separate Govt. entity.

    As I said IANAL. This all hinges on the interpretation of receive. I'd do it the way I outlined. YMMV.
     

    ericoak

    don't drop Aboma on me
    Feb 20, 2010
    6,807
    Howard County
    I travel a lot to other States. While browsing a gun store in Georgia I saw some good deals on 30 round AR mags. I wanted to buy some but... How would I get them home?

    Is it okay to put an empty mag in carry-on luggage?

    If I mail them to myself, am I violating the "receive" wording in the new law?

    Is carrying a mag across the boarder the only legal way to get one?

    Am I asking too many questions? :0)

    Don't ever bring firearm equipment in carry on luggage, that is a huge NO-NO. the only exception the TSA allows is rifle scopes, and a scope is really just a monocular.
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    I don't know, but as I said, I'd prefer to receive an item, I had in my possession prior to the flight, not received from a separate Govt. entity.

    As I said IANAL. This all hinges on the interpretation of receive. I'd do it the way I outlined. YMMV.

    Sure would be nice to have that definition, wouldn't it? A few of us have been asking for a while.... As a matter of fact, I wrote to the entire GA last summer to inquire and got absolutely 0 responses.
     

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