CCW training requirement just might be here soon.
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Want. Please.
Can't post here (too big and the attachments don't allow MP3). It is 8.76MB. Sorry.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
We can find a home for it on the MSI website if you are OK with it. PM gprimr1 and he'll find a way. He's a smart one...
Thx.
Will do...
Smagel
Hey, hey, my, my
Yeah, again, it's not really about training or not training. It's about them trying to use "training" as a way to block people from getting a permit (or even a gun, evidently).
If the bill defined the costs and requirements and that was all reasonable, then most would accept that and we'd move on to become a shall issue state.
But that's not what's happening.
And as to recouping the expense for the "training" the state currently provides to purchase - Hell, how much could it cost for them to make and maintain the safety video? Then prorate it out to the number of people who have to view it: $5? $10? And besides that, what about all of us who didn't even watch it because we're vets? Would we have to pay for it even though we're not required to watch it? Costs and other questions should be spelled out in the bill if safety were the real concern.
Shenanigans.
If the bill defined the costs and requirements and that was all reasonable, then most would accept that and we'd move on to become a shall issue state.
But that's not what's happening.
And as to recouping the expense for the "training" the state currently provides to purchase - Hell, how much could it cost for them to make and maintain the safety video? Then prorate it out to the number of people who have to view it: $5? $10? And besides that, what about all of us who didn't even watch it because we're vets? Would we have to pay for it even though we're not required to watch it? Costs and other questions should be spelled out in the bill if safety were the real concern.
Shenanigans.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
It's online because they cannot charge for it. Add a cost component and not only are we paying, we are driving. You can bet a live-presence class was in their minds.
Straightshooter
Ultimate Member
There is no next session. The push was into the current session, which began at 1427. You were correct...four hours ago.
This stuff moves too fast sometimes.
They have gotten through most of the perfunctory stuff already. They are going to get to the special order probably by about 1630.
Maybe I should have said "the evening session after their diner break". Thanks for the correction.
Maybe I should have said "the evening session after their diner break". Thanks for the correction.
In session now - live feed: http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/realaudio/Maryland Senate Live.ram (requires RealPlayer).
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Maybe I should have said "the evening session after their diner break". Thanks for the correction.
And the likely scenario is you were ahead of me by about 30 minutes.
Thanks for chasing the details and keeping us all up to date.
Overall, it ain't over, but we're scoring points.
Straightshooter
Ultimate Member
And the likely scenario is you were ahead of me by about 30 minutes.
Thanks for chasing the details and keeping us all up to date.
Overall, it ain't over, but we're scoring points.
No foul.
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
Here is the link on the vote to the Jennings' amendment that would have killed the hijack. The Nays voted against us. If your Senator is on that list as voting NAY, you now empowered by that knowledge to let him know how you feel about it. The list
http://mlis.state.md.us/2012rs/votes/senate/1198.htm
The MSI action e-mail website for sending an email
http://actionmail.ksconline.net/
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
all it would take would be a directive to the Police Training Commission from the Governor and bingo, whole new, expensive, in person, class in order to purchase.
2nd=Good+Substantial
Ultimate Member
Senator Getty had my back. However, I took the list and e-mailed all the Nay voters and asked them not to repeat their mistake.
esqappellate, thanks to you and all the others that have been providing information and clarification to aid us in the defense of our rights. Your time and efforts are greatly appreciated!
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
Thanks. BTW, I did the same mailing to all the NAY votes. I sent an extra special e-mail to my senator (who voted NAY).
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
From what I can tell, the bill got special ordered (delayed) again into the current session that started a few minutes ago. They are going back to back now - four sessions today alone.
I don't know who special-ordered it this time. Info not available yet. But the whole session closes in a few hours.
I don't know who special-ordered it this time. Info not available yet. But the whole session closes in a few hours.
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Hey, you all can watch these two pages for up to date info:
Senate Agenda: Look for Special Order #81 and in it you will find HB579. This will show the general agenda and where the bill sits.
Senate Proceedings: Up to the minute (if you refresh) data. It's a little delayed, but the best source of remote info I have seen short of a phone call.
Senate Agenda: Look for Special Order #81 and in it you will find HB579. This will show the general agenda and where the bill sits.
Senate Proceedings: Up to the minute (if you refresh) data. It's a little delayed, but the best source of remote info I have seen short of a phone call.
It is also listed in SO #86.
It was in the SO that they were discussing in Session #3, the Senate President adjourned once the discussions on HB 701 reached a conclusion for amendment requests. The other items on that SO were not covered prior to adjournment of Session #3.
Wow, Frederick and PG County are agreeing on amendments. Crazy night.
ezliving
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No monkey business happening on the House side?
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