Zastava PAP AK-47

[faze]

Just wanted to post this here as my review thread, I haven't shot it yet, but I wanted to have this thread going, and let others share their experiences. I got this yesterday, added an NcStar 4 recticle reflex sight. Came with two 10 round single stack magazines. The weapon came with a fair bit of packing grease for being brand new (manufactured in Serbia, June 2011). The actions are VERY tight, very well built weapon. Pretty standard action, bolt can be locked back with the safety as with most AK's. I'll post more after I shoot it in a couple weeks.

Anybody else have this weapon?

 

[HardHatMan]

Just wanted to post this here as my review thread, I haven't shot it yet, but I wanted to have this thread going, and let others share their experiences. I got this yesterday, added an NcStar 4 recticle reflex sight. Came with two 10 round single stack magazines. The weapon came with a fair bit of packing grease for being brand new (manufactured in Serbia, June 2011). The actions are VERY tight, very well built weapon. Pretty standard action, bolt can be locked back with the safety as with most AK's. I'll post more after I shoot it in a couple weeks.

Anybody else have this weapon?

Huh?

 

[faze]

What's there not to understand? This is the rifle forum, and I'm sharing a new purchase...

 

[Name Taken]

What's there not to understand? This is the rifle forum, and I'm sharing a new purchase...

He highlighted the fact that the bolt can be locked by via the safety.

On my Saiga the bolt gets held back with a release by the trigger guard...not by using the safety.

 

[erwos]

To be fair, I also didn't know about that trick with locking back the bolt using the safety. Learn something new every day...

The Saiga's BHO is not a standard AK feature, and has been known to cause operational issues, at least in the S12. Most people dump it when they do the conversion.

 

[HardHatMan]

What's there not to understand? This is the rifle forum, and I'm sharing a new purchase...

I was questioning the part in bold. I don't think most AK's have the bolt hold back. Usually, they are cut into the safety lever after the fact.

 

[faze]

He highlighted the fact that the bolt can be locked by via the safety.

On my Saiga the bolt gets held back with a release by the trigger guard...not by using the safety.

Oh, didn't notice that. What I meant by locking back the bolt... Pull it all the way back, then engage the safety. There is a notch carved out that holds the bolt in place. To chamber a round, simply take it off of safety.

 

[faze]

I was questioning the part in bold. I don't think most AK's have the bolt hold back. Usually, they are cut into the safety lever after the fact.

A lot of AK's don't have that feature, but it's an easy one to hack up.

 

[fivepointstar]

I'd like to know how the reflex sight holds up on that rifle??

 

[faze]

I'd like to know how the reflex sight holds up on that rifle??

Yeah I was curious about it too. People say it's wobbly because of where the rail is (on the dust cover) but the dust cover is VERY tight. It's even hard to get on/off. It's fine.

 

[fivepointstar]

Yeah I was curious about it too. People say it's wobbly because of where the rail is (on the dust cover) but the dust cover is VERY tight. It's even hard to get on/off. It's fine.

that too but wondering if the hologram will hold up as well

 

[faze]

that too but wondering if the hologram will hold up as well

Don't buy an airsoft sight and it'll be fine.

 

[erwos]

The problems that optics have on AKs are when you slap them on an Ultimak, which gets rather hot... which causes the batteries to overheat and shut down the optic. I am going to guess that this isn't such a big deal with a gas cover mount.

IIRC, the problem with dust cover mounts isn't holding a zero, it's returning to a zero...

 

[faze]

The problems that optics have on AKs are when you slap them on an Ultimak, which gets rather hot... which causes the batteries to overheat and shut down the optic. I am going to guess that this isn't such a big deal with a gas cover mount.

IIRC, the problem with dust cover mounts isn't holding a zero, it's returning to a zero...

The dust cover doesn't get hot enough to do that.

I haven't shot it yet, so once I sight it in, we'll see how bad it is.

Also, how do I keep the battery from draining? This thing doesn't have an off switch. I presume that putting the dust cover over the scope lens will turn it off?

 

[Name Taken]

that too but wondering if the hologram will hold up as well

We destroyed one rather quickly on my buddies S-12...range only allowed slugs and we got half way through a drum before it gave up.

 

[faze]

We destroyed one rather quickly on my buddies S-12...range only allowed slugs and we got half way through a drum before it gave up.

That's a 12ga shotgun though, just a wee bit more recoil and heat.

 

[Name Taken]

That's a 12ga shotgun though, just a wee bit more recoil and heat.

Understood.

However the recoil system (while "heavier") is still the same. It's mounted on the part of the rifle that takes a beatings no matter what caliber it is.

Hopefully your's will last....I'm betting it wont.

 

[faze]

Understood.

However the recoil system (while "heavier") is still the same. It's mounted on the part of the rifle that takes a beatings no matter what caliber it is.

Hopefully your's will last....I'm betting it wont.

The vendor said it was rated for use with an AK. The AK that I purchased has significantly less recoil than most. My friend compared it to shooting a .223.

I hear what you're saying with the location of the rail, being over the dust cover. The dust cover is very tight from what I'm used to with other AK rifles.

 

[erwos]

Well, it's not like 7.62x39 is known for its light recoil. I'm a big fan of budget optics, but even I'd be careful of mounting them on a shotgun or a large caliber rifle...

 

[faze]

Here is the sight that is on there:
http://www.ak47accessories.com/NcStar-Tactical-4-Reticle-Red-Dot-Sight-p/ncs-d4.htm

I'm also thinking about getting a vertical foregrip.