Yellowsleds bound book .pdf

[yellowsled]

Similar to Machodoc's, here is the C&R cound book I have been using for a while. Absolutely nothing wrong with any of the others, I just stated using this one when I first got my C&R, so i just continue using it. I dont like change...

 

[bkraft]

Thats the same one I'm using, but, it was shot down by the ATF durign an audit of a member here. They want a single line per item. They said that format was not acceptable. That was the gist of the thread, just repeatign it here. If you ever get flagged for an audit, you may want to update your bound book pages first... FYI

 

[yellowsled]

that is one item per line, not following.

 

[Malblast]

I think the issue is they want a single row of information per firearm entry

 

[bkraft]

Yes, sorry. I was trying to get more info, but it's been a few years and I was having trouble finding the thread. Here's the thread where we were discussing it back in 2010. Bigdtc's audit was in 09. There are a few threads that linked in the info, but I think most everythign is mentioned or linked in this one:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=44245&highlight=C&R+audit

 

[Chaunsey]

this is the same one i use, and its the same one that surplusrifleforum.com has recommended for years, probably thousands of people using it, including a few that have been audited.

i wouldnt worry too much about the exact configuration of the lines, as much as just making sure all the info is there and correct.

if, in the long chance that one day you get audited and they dont like it, they wont give you 20 lashes at dawn or throw you in the dungeon they will simply ask you to change the format.

if you keep digital copies of your bound book, copying and pasting the info onto a new set of pages would be a quick fix anyway.

 

[Machodoc]

I actually like this format better than what I posted, but when I was doing research before putting mine together I found a couple of places where it was mentioned that BATFE had shot down some guys on audits for the wrong format.

My forms follow BATFE guidelines specifically, even though that makes it a bit harder to enter the data neatly (especially if you hand-write it, rather than filling in an Excel form, then printing the sheet).

I think it depends upon who you get inspecting your book in an audit. When I was in college I had a part-time job processing import/export orders through US Customs. Those guys, nice as they were, were very literal. I even had to go out and buy a particular pen, so that I'd be sure to always have black ink and a fine enough point to be able to legibly put a bunch of data into boxes that were always too small.

 

[Mooseman]

Wow, I really like this one. Is it okay to use or not?

 

[yellowsled]

go for it, i use it.

 

[eruby]

Same page I use.

 

[PJDiesel]

I printed out 10 pages yesterday (and just filled 5)

The way I'm reading it, this page will suffice.

 

[yellowsled]

I printed out 10 pages yesterday (and just filled 5)

The way I'm reading it, this page will suffice.

I need your crate, i just wish there was a way to get it from you...

 

[j8064]

This topic has been discussed and discussed. You guys can use what you want, however that format is NOT COLUMNAR. If you are ever audited you may find yourself rewriting every page of your book in the BATFE approved columnar format.

 

[bkraft]

Wow, I really like this one. Is it okay to use or not?

go for it, i use it

It's the one I'm currently using as well.

if, in the long chance that one day you get audited and they dont like it, they wont give you 20 lashes at dawn or throw you in the dungeon they will simply ask you to change the format.

this is the same one i use, and its the same one that surplusrifleforum.com has recommended for years, probably thousands of people using it, including a few that have been audited.

I think that's the point. I'm using this format. I started with it almost 6 years ago and after using it for a few years before finding out it isn't accepted, I haven't bothered to redo my bound book, I continue to use it. That said, yes, people are using it, some have been audited and those have been told it's not acceptable and they need to redo their bound books.

Are they going to take away your C&R over it? No. Not even close. They will make you rewrite it in an approved format, though.

Personally, I will continue to use it. If I ever get contacted for an audit, I will redo my bound book in an appropriate format before the meeting, as I'd have to do it anyway.

If you aren't currently using this format, use what you like. But ultimately, you should know that you may end up having to redo it all if you're audited. So why you'd start with this format knowing that, I don't know... But if you like it, do what makes you happy.

 

[George]

Is a 3 ring binder ok or is it supposed to be bound(like a hard back)?

 

[bkraft]

No, doesn't have to be "bound". Three ring binder is acceptable.