Win231 v Titegroup

[bhdpal]

S&W M&P full size 9mm semi-auto 4" barrel 17 cap + 1 chamber.
Reloading target paper puncher rounds 115 & 124 grain fmj, cci500 primers, rem/brass once fired.

Considered lead bullets but not sure about effects on barrel and feeding of rounds into chamber from mag.

I want to use Win231 or Titegroup but can't decide and can't afford both in 8lb.

Lot of reloading research & loading manuals load data favor Win 231.

Would appreciate recommendations from reloaders on this Forum.

 

[Vision]

I prefer Win 231, for me it measures better than Titegroup did. I'm using the Lee Turret press setup and loading for both .40 S&W and .45 ACP. I didn't notice a big difference in shooting results so for me it came down to consistency of the powder drop.

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[FlatsFlite]

If you can't do both and reload other handgun rounds, get W231. While not my absolute favorite handgun powder, if I could have only one, W231 would be it. It works very well in just about everything from 38 special to 45ACP and 375 mag.

 

[HarCo2ANewb]

I sold my titegroup in favor of 231/38 when I started loading for my G19, just was easier to use and shoot

 

[BUFF7MM]

If you can find both buy a 1 pound can of each, at 7000 grains per pound you can get quite a few rounds from a pound.
4 grains per round = 1750 rounds per pound. (I'm just using 4 grains as a reference)
I do use w231 for a bunch of different calibers.

 

[Winterborn]

S&W M&P full size 9mm semi-auto 4" barrel 17 cap + 1 chamber.
Reloading target paper puncher rounds 115 & 124 grain fmj, cci500 primers, rem/brass once fired.

Considered lead bullets but not sure about effects on barrel and feeding of rounds into chamber from mag.

I want to use Win231 or Titegroup but can't decide and can't afford both in 8lb.

Lot of reloading research & loading manuals load data favor Win 231.

Would appreciate recommendations from reloaders on this Forum.

Lead boolits with Titegroup are pretty smoky, just an FYI.

I like using Bullseye for 9mm and 45, works equally well jacketed or lead and much less smoke than titegroup.

 

[BradMacc82]

Lead boolits with Titegroup are pretty smoky, just an FYI.

Absolutely agreed.

Rouchna found out how smokey they can be at the NRA Range a few weeks ago - looked like blackpowder was going off.

However, 4.8+ grains of Titegroup under a jacketed round, runs a LOT cleaner.

One of these days I'll try out 231, but currently still have TG, so I'll keep running it until it's gone. I'm using a Pro1000 for .45ACP and TG meters plenty well thru the auto-disk on the Pro1000.

 

[DocAitch]

W231

I prefer W231 because I find TiteGroup to have a snappier recoil (could be totally subjective).
W231(HP 38 is the same powder) is extremely versatile-I use it for everything from 32 S&W long to plinking loads in 44Mag.
I also suspect that the smoky loads with cast bullets are due more to the lubricant than the powder.
DocAitch

 

[Uncle Duke]

Have used both and have liked both. I've personally had more luck this year finding W231(or HP38---same as W231) than I have Titegroup. That availability issue seems to be getting a bit better now though. Before, I wouldn't (and didn't) hesitate to grab either.

If I could only choose one, with both being available, I'd personally opt for W231. That powder has a lot of applications and has been a consistent favorite of mine for many years.

 

[Pinecone]

I load mainly WW231 for pistol loads. Good all around powder.

May not be the best for any given load, but it works in them all.

 

[tdt91]

I've used the HP38 and TiteGroup. I prefer the TG

 

[Marauder]

If I had to choose between them, I prefer W231..

 

[Deep Creek Rock]

Win 231/ HP-38 for autoloaders. Love it in 45ACP.

However for long revolver rounds with small charges - Titegroup performs better for me VS 231. Love it in 45 colt!

Titegroup is not position sensitive (difference in velocity with powder resting on primer VS not resting on primer) which makes it ideal for wheelgun loads, which the cases tend to be longer.

 

[pcfixer]

I've been using TG in 45 ACP and 45 LC --platted bullets.

45 LC with lead bullets I use Clays.

 

[Flipz]

I use both.

TG for 147gr 9mm
W231 for 230gr 45acp

 

[shaddydan]

I've had lots of success with titegroup in 45acp and 38spl. It is smoky with lead and plated. I haven't tried w231 yet. Titegroup does go a long way in 45. 5grs under a 200 gr boolit cycle my Sig fine.

 

[guthook]

I use Titegroup in 9mm, .38sp, .357mag, and .45acp

My loads are all light, which causes smoke, but I can forgive a little soot for the excellent results on target.

BTW, where is everyone seeing Titegroup? I've been out for months.

Had to resort to Bullseye and Vihtavuori powder lately.

 

[pop-gunner]

If you want I'll but the titegroup and trade you a pound or two for a pound or two of 231.
I have used both for years and each has it's place.
I use Titegroup or VVN320 for game loads in competition guns and 231 for most other things.

 

[covertpanda]

I load 9minor, 40major, and .45acp with TG. Its been accurate and consistant across several different platforms. Also, I completely agree about lead and smoke; I had to run moly's this past season and it was a bit smokey.

 

[photoracer]

I use Unique for my low power loads, even in 9x23mm. It is a flake powder and measures very well with my Lee Pro 1000. Otherwise for Major loads in 9x23 I use either AutoComp or HS-6.