Who is the next MSP Superintendent?

[Mr H]

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Deep breaths, there...

All these things have been addressed in several places, and you run a lot of things together.

For purposes of this thread, a couple things...

LE experience will be required but, moreso, leadership.
Compatibility with the new Administratrion's views is necessary.
An understanding of the interaction of politics and the citizenry is essential.

Most of all, though, we need to remember that there currently is no new Administration... just a Governor-Elect, and some new GA members.

Let the transition team work, let the new GA members settle their affairs, pay attention to the new committee assignments, and our role in this will be to familiarize ourselves with the new circumstances as they develop.

We can, however, begin communications with the GA members--new and old--and remind themn that the electorate is no longer disengaged. Comment to them about all issues trhat affect you. Learn the responsibilities of the committees they belong to, and address those issues.

 

[Blaster229]

People need to remember that running the Maryland State Police requires more than enthusiasm for 2A and G&S.
Bongino, as far as I know was simply a Secret Service Agent and not a SAC (Special Agent In Charge) of a field office managing employees nor was he some sort of Director in the agency.
This position still requires some fiscal and large company managerial skills.

 

[Brooklyn]

One thing that might be a problem with Jack would be his profile. Since he is currently fairly high profile it might be more difficult to get things done under the radar if Jack was Superintendent. Every move would be scrutinized and picked at.

It night be better to have someone else as Superintendent, that is just as much on our side.

Just a thought from outside the box.

Why tie him down with management? Bet he could be more valuable elsewhere.. mangers are many leaders are few..

 

[dblas]

Why tie him down with management? Bet he could be more valuable elsewhere.. mangers are many leaders are few..

Because, any decision coming from MSP will be tied to him as Secretary, by the GA, and by the AG, this includes any and every internal policy memo that they send out to every internal department.

Regardless of who institutes it, it will be pegged to him.

 

[JamesH]

Any chance of the new governor getting rid of SB281 and the magazine capacity ban and does he seem like he is pro second amendment.

That's not how laws work. If it were just in COMAR, that might be different, but SB281, including the magazine size restrictions, are in the law, passed by the legislature. Only the General Assembly -- or the judiciary -- can nullify them.

Note that Code of Maryland (Statutes) (aka Maryland Code) is the aggregation of law passed by the legislature. It is confusingly distinct from the Code of Maryland Regulations (COMAR), which are the rules developed by the Maryland executive branch departments for implementing the laws.

 

[ked0607]

Please go read his bio. He's managed not only federal agents in high threat areas but he also has operated his own private business. He's been an instructor as well. He has all the talent needed. He is well educated beyond what's normally on the table for the job.

 

[Blaster229]

Please go read his bio. He's managed not only federal agents in high threat areas but he also has operated his own private business. He's been an instructor as well. He has all the talent needed. He is well educated beyond what's normally on the table for the job.

Believe me, I know what "manage agents in high threat areas" means. And it's not managing an office of 200-800 employees like a field office SAC does or assistant Director. Not demeaning his experience, but those aren't the same thing. I can say that I've "lead teams of counter terror operators throughout the world in law enforcement operations in high risk areas". Believe me, it's far from what it sounds like but looks impressive on a resume. and it's not business management.
Special Agent experience is not uniformed police agency experience. Until you get into the upper echelons of management and directorship, then it becomes managing employees. I'd rather have a former Capitol police, Park Police, etc... chief type than a retired secret service agent if coming from a federal background. Federal agent law enforcement experience is so far removed from the real world police.
Remember, at the end of the day it first and foremost has to be someone who can run a large company and not just one guy who may be all for carry rights. This is all everyone has been talking about since the election, G&S. we still have other portions of a state to run.

 

[John from MD]

Believe me, I know what "manage agents in high threat areas" means. And it's not managing an office of 200-800 employees like a field office SAC does or assistant Director. Not demeaning his experience, but those aren't the same thing. I can say that I've "lead teams of counter terror operators throughout the world in law enforcement operations in high risk areas". Believe me, it's far from what it sounds like but looks impressive on a resume. and it's not business management.
Special Agent experience is not uniformed police agency experience. Until you get into the upper echelons of management and directorship, then it becomes managing employees. I'd rather have a former Capitol police, Park Police, etc... chief type than a retired secret service agent if coming from a federal background. Federal agent law enforcement experience is so far removed from the real world police.
Remember, at the end of the day it first and foremost has to be someone who can run a large company and not just one guy who may be all for carry rights. This is all everyone has been talking about since the election, G&S. we still have other portions of a state to run.

+1 on all of the above. Having been IIC, Acting this and that as well as being a federal district manager I agree, there is no comparison. Being an AIC or Special Team Manger etc is mostly about coordinating an investigation and directing the people on your team to do certain tasks over a relatively short period of time.

Managing a Division means, not only accomplishing the mission, but also things like maintaining staffing levels, hiring and firing, dealing with grievances, paying the rent and electric bills, getting vehicles and equipment for your staff, coordinating with local and State agencies etc.

Would you rather have a guy who can shoot a clean target and knows the names of all the Mexican gangs or someone who can manage a 1000 man operation?


John

 

[Gryphon]

Dan Bongino was being interviewed by C4 about 20 minutes ago on WBAL 1090 radio, and was asked whether he would accept an appointment as MSP Superintendent. I thought Bongino would duck the question, but instead he very clearly answered by saying "I haven't been offered the job, but I would be honored to be the MSP Superintendent."

 

[swinokur]

Anyone know Jack Mac's inclinations on this?

 

[Gryphon]

I must say I like the idea of a Dan/Jack "one two punch"!

 

[NormH3]

I'm thinking Tom Sellack. He's doing a great job as NYC's Police Commissioner.

 

[DC-W]

I'm thinking Tom Sellack. He's doing a great job as NYC's Police Commissioner.

 

[PJDiesel]

Anyone know Jack Mac's inclinations on this?

God I hope. Something tells me he won't, but, man, what an asset that would be on so many different levels.....

 

[ShafTed]

from http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=3486580&

Sir,

If offered, will you be accepting a new position with the MSP licensing division? I can't believe I don't already see that question here..

I surrendered my badge to fight for the rights of our citizens. I am relentless in my pursuit to right the ship. This election has given us a small step forward. I would do anything that was in the best interest of everyone. Governor Hogan has much to consider when weighing his options for key government support positions. To stop sounding like a politician...Hell yes!!!

 

[Mr H]

I read that when it was first posted, and grinned. Real big.

 

[Odiferous Maximus]

Okay...so riddle me this:

Suppose the new Governor appoints an MSP superintendent who, within his lawful authority, interprets G&S as pretty much any person who may lawfully purchase/possess a handgun and approves carry permits on that basis.

That would turn Maryland into a de facto "shall issue" state, at least for four years.

Is there anything I'm missing? What would be the problem, if any, with that?

Thanks,

Mike

 

[Mr H]

Okay...so riddle me this:

Suppose the new Governor appoints an MSP superintendent who, within his lawful authority, interprets G&S as pretty much any person who may lawfully purchase/possess a handgun and approves carry permits on that basis.

That would turn Maryland into a de facto "shall issue" state, at least for four years.

Is there anything I'm missing? What would be the problem, if any, with that?

Thanks,

Mike

The only real issue with that would be that it's an administrative remedy. It would have to be made "permanent" by legislative means, and that can be a tough row to hoe.

 

[Gryphon]

That's pretty close. Self defense and all lawful purposes = good and substantial, and no prior forfeiture through bad acts/criminal record = permit. However, I would suggest that if this happens early in the new administration a permit would be good for as much as 7 years, not just 4. You would be up for renewal after 3 years before the first 4 year term was over, and getting another 3 years on your permit would make it 7 years. There would be no going back even by a new administration IMO. Plus, we may have favorable court decisions by then that would prevent the legislature from trying to go backwards.

 

[Straightshooter]

The length of time a permit is good for is set in COMAR and can not be changed simply by the will of the Superintendent.