What's wrong with this picture?

[SlowShooter]

Augie, How are your groups shooting off hand in T shirt (with the best ammo you have)? If the SA stock worked, I would not spent more than $100 for the GI stock. I own this rifle since August 2011. It fails to impress me and it becomes a parade rifle ever since.
Blacksmith101, I did try german, austrian and greece surplus. I have seen better groups but not justify for $2000 I already spent on the gun. Compare to my $550 +$200(reddot) MAS49/56 in the lousy .308(should be mention only as 7.62NATO) which has been drops several times and really ugly, It just does not make any sense!

 

[SlowShooter]

Overboost44, bulleye don't have to be black. You will see my white bulleye next test.

RDC, some wolf ammos are excellence. Go figure!

 

[Augie]

Couple links for you to look thru if you want, may help chasing down accuracy issues with M1A/M14.
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=6&t=344653

http://m14forum.com/reference/73926-m14-m1a-health-check.html

 

[Minuteman]

Your target was on sideways.

My first thought too.

Couple links for you to look thru if you want, may help chasing down accuracy issues with M1A/M14.
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=6&t=344653

http://m14forum.com/reference/73926-m14-m1a-health-check.html

Cool.

 

[Rick3bears]

OK. It's 7:52 AM Sunday. Enough time has passed. Where are the updated results? ;-)

 

[Bootknife]

My Older M1A will do 1 MOA with Fed Match , find an Old School Armorer and have them Check out and Tune Your rifle.

 

[Doobie]

Completely honest? If it were my post, I would've posted not only the pic, but as much information as possible for people to go off of. Your opening post is kinda like someone going to the doctor and saying "I hurt." But it's not my post and everyone is different. Personally, I would've put as much info as possible in opening post so people wouldn't suggest things that I already tried and knew didn't work/wasn't the cause. Good luck, I'm curious as to what the cause is.

 

[c33m0n3y]

Wait a second....This was all a ruse! The M1A is not C&R, and therefore what's wrong with this picture is that it should have been posted in the "Rifles" forum.

I win! How many internets does this get me?

 

[Minuteman]

Wait a second....This was all a ruse! The M1A is not C&R, and therefore what's wrong with this picture is that it should have been posted in the "Rifles" forum.

I win! How many internets does this get me?

.5 Only because some of us noticed it too, but let it slide.


Just kidding, I give you one whole internet!

 

[Minuteman]

Tran fired my 10 reloads this morning. He was still at the range @10:30. His group did improve.

Cool. Had to be the gun or the ammo. Any decent M1A should be much tighter than that at 100 yards.

 

[SKIP]

Cool. Had to be the gun or the ammo. Any decent M1A should be much tighter than that at 100 yards.

He wore this oversized French beret. I think he just arrived from Paris.

 

[SlowShooter]

Here we go,

This time I rested the rifle completely on rice bag (see picture). No rear bag was used. I fired SKIP's ammo first. The group was tight but at least 2 to 3 fliers due to bore needed warm up shots and I forget (sorry SKIP). The next 10 group was German stuff and the last 10 was Wolf Polyformance 145gr (not Wolf Performance Ammunition, they are diffrence). Shots fire 2 minutes apart to keep up with the range section timing. Please look at the results and let me know if they are what you expect to see. Thanks.

Notes: The reason I picked C&R for this thread because I believe M1A/M14 should be listed as C&R so Maryland's new generation of shooters can enjoy them. I also have Austrian Surplus but ran out of time so....

 

[Augie]

Getting better, I would expect to see groups at least 1/2 that even with irons for a service grade M1A/M14.
I would look thru the accuracy threads I posted and check out some of the easy stuff. Then I would try a couple boxes of Federal match, that stuff shoots well in just about any rifle.

 

[Minuteman]

Depending on what you 'aim' to do with that rifle, I think I would put it zero'ed at exactly 100 yards. Then just adjust your dope for targets further out.

Looks to me like you have it zero'ed at about 250 yards.

If you zero to 100, anything closer than 100 yards and you don't really need to worry about it.

 

[outrider58]

Completely honest? If it were my post, I would've posted not only the pic, but as much information as possible for people to go off of. Your opening post is kinda like someone going to the doctor and saying "I hurt." But it's not my post and everyone is different. Personally, I would've put as much info as possible in opening post so people wouldn't suggest things that I already tried and knew didn't work/wasn't the cause. Good luck, I'm curious as to what the cause is.

Yup

 

[SlowShooter]

Getting better, I would expect to see groups at least 1/2 that even with irons for a service grade M1A/M14.
I would look thru the accuracy threads I posted and check out some of the easy stuff. Then I would try a couple boxes of Federal match, that stuff shoots well in just about any rifle.

I have not seen any M1A around here do better than that. They may dress better with aluminum stock and and night force scope. If your gun is better than my. Bring over to AGC range and show us. Thanks in advance!

 

[SlowShooter]

Depending on what you 'aim' to do with that rifle, I think I would put it zero'ed at exactly 100 yards. Then just adjust your dope for targets further out.

Looks to me like you have it zero'ed at about 250 yards.

If you zero to 100, anything closer than 100 yards and you don't really need to worry about it.

I don't try to zero at this time. Just shoot for groups, and I don't really want to hit the black. My goal is to shoot off hand with no glove or vest, men don't go to battle field with bench, rest or shooting vest. Thanks for your comment.

 

[SlowShooter]

Completely honest? If it were my post, I would've posted not only the pic, but as much information as possible for people to go off of. Your opening post is kinda like someone going to the doctor and saying "I hurt." But it's not my post and everyone is different. Personally, I would've put as much info as possible in opening post so people wouldn't suggest things that I already tried and knew didn't work/wasn't the cause. Good luck, I'm curious as to what the cause is.

It draws your attention, It is not?

 

[SlowShooter]

He wore this oversized French beret. I think he just arrived from Paris.

My heart is with the French and Paris, especially this time. Be calm and ... Keep laughing SKIP.

 

[Fox123]

It draws your attention, It is not?

Eh kinda annoying more than anything and causes me to not give a damn and move on, came back and read through after seeing more posts. Still pretty much have the same mind set as before.