Whatever happened to the applications of pre-stay permit filers?

[Warpspasm]

It's been so long since I turned in my papers and had my MSP interview I almost forgot about it. I looked through a few pages of messages, but don't see any posts. Has anybody gotten denied letters?

 

[Sundazes]

I was wondering the same thing. Since my interview, crickets.....

 

[WARPIG [USMC]]

I believe I saw a post on here that someone was denied. :thumbdown:

 

[Mr H]

All are still on hold, as far as anyone knows.

The only denial I've heard of was for a member who called to check the status.

Not sayin'... just sayin'...

 

[Inigoes]

We are still in an active case.

Although the CA4 handed us a set back, Gura is within the 90 window to appeal to the SCOTUS. The appeal was announced in the Kachalsky cert petition.

There is some legal chess maneuvering going on right now. The Moore/Madigan case the state announced it will appeal ro the SCOTUS also, they were first in the block.

 

[ron2shel]

i got a letter in the mail from msp yesterday stating i had 30 days to bring them a g&s reason or my app would be denied. Turn app in pre-stay. msp stated they couldn't hold the apps any longer.

 

[Mr H]

Interesting...

This opens up a new dynamic, IMO...

I'm almost looking forward to a mass of these letters!

 

[OLD FORD GUY]

My letter came in this morning. Application was pre -stay also.

 

[MJD438]

Interesting - I thought a mandate had not been issued by CA4 as of yet and that our lawyerly members said MSP would be foolish to take action without that mandate...wonder if anyone from the EM pool @ MSI has any thoughts on this latest development...(i.e., should we be forwarding these letters to either MSI or, if a member, to SAF?)

 

[Biggfoot44]

As a wild guess , with only one sq in of alum foil taped to the brim of my hat :

MSP is either : 1. Feeling testy because they've been sued. 2. Realize that we've seen thru their attempt to cheaply co-opt us cheaply by going thru the motions of temporarily putting apps on hold, and are letting their true colors out.

 

[BUFF7MM]

Here's what I just got today for mine.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=119143

 

[Mr H]

Interesting - I thought a mandate had not been issued by CA4 as of yet and that our lawyerly members said MSP would be foolish to take action without that mandate...wonder if anyone from the EM pool @ MSI has any thoughts on this latest development...(i.e., should we be forwarding these letters to either MSI or, if a member, to SAF?)

I am an EM and have an app in, but have no official say in this. I will leave it to further deliberation and formal positioning.

That said, I'll offer this:

We have been recommending for over a year that all new developments be brought to the atention of MSI and SAF.

My personal inclination is that this is huge, and allowing them to deny us all will be the worst thing that could happen... TO THEM.

 

[MJD438]

I am an EM and have an app in, but have no official say in this. I will leave it to further deliberation and formal positioning.

That said, I'll offer this:

We have been recommending for over a year that all new developments be brought to the atention of MSI and SAF.

My personal inclination is that this is huge, and allowing them to deny us all will be the worst thing that could happen... TO THEM.

I sent a PM to Patrick and Esq. to see if they have any comments, and was thinking of sending a copy of any letter that I receive to SAF. While not an EM (yet), I agree with you - I am interested in the take from MSI leadership on how we faithful citizens of this state should respond.

 

[Mr H]

I sent a PM to Patrick and Esq. to see if they have any comments, and was thinking of sending a copy of any letter that I receive to SAF. While not an EM (yet), I agree with you - I am interested in the take from MSI leadership on how we faithful citizens of this state should respond.

I've passed word along to the EMs and Leadership.

This will get interesting. Buckle up.

 

[stever]

I received my denial notice today as well. My app was pre-stay.

 

[Straightshooter]

Man, this is going to f#$+k up their 97% approval rate.

 

[CAS_Shooter]

It's been so long since I turned in my papers and had my MSP interview I almost forgot about it. I looked through a few pages of messages, but don't see any posts. Has anybody gotten denied letters?

Got mine today. If only I had some money that needed protecting, I could respond with a good and substantial the state would accept.

 

[hogrider]

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=119143

 

[Inigoes]

The MSP must be fishing for the people who fit the existing business profiles.

 

[Kharn]

Man, this is going to f#$+k up their 97% approval rate.

Oh yeah, they issue 3500-5k/year, and I believe there were ~365 pre-stay applicants. So even for a 5,000-applicant year, those individuals would more than triple their regular denial percentage. "Sure, its a legit program, with a 10% denial rate... "