What is your breaking point for a Revolution?

[BradMaryland]

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

Ghost busters

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[Fishguy]

Since you guys are East Coast dudes I don't know how much you know about Chris Donner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner

He was the ex-cop/sailor that decided to take on LAPD last year. It was amazing how much damage he did. The police literally quite enforcing laws other than violent felonies that were in the process of being committed. The sheer manpower that was sent after one guy willing to die sort of made you wonder if that had been 50 guys all acting in tandem up and down California what would have happened.

This is exactly the scenario that comes to my mind.

First, I am not calling for a revolution and I do not wish violence upon anyone. This is a purely cerebral exercise.

To those who imagine any successful revolution would look like Vietnam or WWII, it wouldn't. The gov is very good at fighting that kind of war. Also, the prepper in the hills in his bunker is toast as well for the same reason.

But, a small number of loosely coordinated people who were willing to fight very dirty and were ready to do things that most civilized people would abhor could make a very noticeable difference in gov policy.

One guy who, seemingly out of nowhere, took out say a Representative then disappeared into the population might be hard to find. Then if other soft political targets (and their families even) started dropping by other lone wolvesin much the same fashion, that alone could cause an immense uproar.

I am not that guy and again do not suggest such repulsive actions, but for one to simply say it isn't possible is naive.

 

[RugerFan]

Talking about an "armed revolution" is nonsense from Budweiser bad-asses.

Budweiser bad-asses who I'm pretty sure don't stop to consider that the foot soldiers they'll actually be aiming at won't be some big bad wolf, but everyday Americans - 19-yr old kids, or reservist dads who have kids waiting at home, or maybe even the guy who lives down the street - who are in whatever branch of service that's responding.

You really ready to shoot 'em?

 

[2AHokie]

Budweiser bad-asses who I'm pretty sure don't stop to consider that the foot soldiers they'll actually be aiming at won't be some big bad wolf, but everyday Americans - 19-yr old kids, or reservist dads who have kids waiting at home, or maybe even the guy who lives down the street - who are in whatever branch of service that's responding.

You really ready to shoot 'em?

Of course maybe those 19 year olds and reservist dads would think twice about even fighting since they would also be fighting Americans and not some big bad wolf terrorist in a 3rd world country. Maybe some would even be lined up with the revolutionaries in such a scenario.

This is pointless speculation.

 

[K.C.Dean]

When the Gov. enacts martial law.

 

[WheelHead]

Budweiser bad-asses who I'm pretty sure don't stop to consider that the foot soldiers they'll actually be aiming at won't be some big bad wolf, but everyday Americans - 19-yr old kids, or reservist dads who have kids waiting at home, or maybe even the guy who lives down the street - who are in whatever branch of service that's responding.

You really ready to shoot 'em?

There is another pivotal point in history that I pictured when I read this.....

 

[smokey]

It's like pornography.

"I can't define it. But I (will) know it when I see it."

It's funny that quote about pornography is the same the MSP gave when asked to define "good and substantial"...given that md gun owners are being boned in the A by that response. Hey! It IS like pornography.

 

[RightNYer]

2% of the population died in the last one. I am not yet prepared to lose another 7,000,000 Americans.

As long as those 7 million were parasites that voted for Obama, I'd see that as as a feature, not a bug.

 

[RightNYer]

This is exactly the scenario that comes to my mind.

First, I am not calling for a revolution and I do not wish violence upon anyone. This is a purely cerebral exercise.

To those who imagine any successful revolution would look like Vietnam or WWII, it wouldn't. The gov is very good at fighting that kind of war. Also, the prepper in the hills in his bunker is toast as well for the same reason.

But, a small number of loosely coordinated people who were willing to fight very dirty and were ready to do things that most civilized people would abhor could make a very noticeable difference in gov policy.

One guy who, seemingly out of nowhere, took out say a Representative then disappeared into the population might be hard to find. Then if other soft political targets (and their families even) started dropping by other lone wolvesin much the same fashion, that alone could cause an immense uproar.

I am not that guy and again do not suggest such repulsive actions, but for one to simply say it isn't possible is naive.

I agree. With the number of people who support liberty dwindling, only guerrilla action would have any positive effect.

 

[tony b]

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.........

 

[RightNYer]

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.........

No. Liberalism is an evil ideology that depends on oppressing its opponents in its never ending quest to defeat human nature.

 

[EL1227]

Right church, Wrong pew

I think that we're not considering that the demographic who will probably 'revolt' sooner will be those whose 'entitlements' are suddenly curtailed. All you need to consider is the Occupy movement, and its' anarchist underpinnings. Then, look around at the 'flash mobs' emptying WalMart, and 'knock out' games being practiced on innocent victims.

I think that the SHTF 'revolt' will come sooner than a constitutional one.

Keep your faith in God, but keep your powder dry - Oliver Cromwell

 

[llkoolkeg]

"Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!"

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

. . . where the government (1) refuses to stand for re-election and (2) silences those who protest; where (3) courts have lost the courage to oppose, or (4) can find no one to enforce their decrees.

It could be argue that we have three of four of those conditions now.

 

[Brooklyn]

I think that we're not considering that the demographic who will probably 'revolt' sooner will be those whose 'entitlements' are suddenly curtailed. All you need to consider is the Occupy movement, and its' anarchist underpinnings. Then, look around at the 'flash mobs' emptying WalMart, and 'knock out' games being practiced on innocent victims.

I think that the SHTF 'revolt' will come sooner than a constitutional one.

Keep your faith in God, but keep your powder dry - Oliver Cromwell

The left will go ape shits first they always do. Stop taking the bait.

The left is doing it all for us. Just sit and wait...

 

[EL1227]

It's funny that quote about pornography is the same the MSP gave when asked to define "good and substantial"...given that md gun owners are being boned in the A by that response. Hey! It IS like pornography.

Yeah, we can get pretty aroused by firearms.

hmmm ... A gun and a gun tube sock, a little cosmoline vasoline and you have a visual of how G&S is defined.

 

[Brooklyn]

I agree. With the number of people who support liberty dwindling, only guerrilla action would have any positive effect.

That's funny.... you may want to think that over.... but in any case... with out support guerrillas are terrorists and are killed very easily..

No revolution is possible with out support. PERIOD So stop taking about revolt and start wining hearts and minds.. then its all moot...


Meanwhile this revolt nonsense loses us support in the political fight.

 

[EL1227]

Whoa-ho-ho Nellie !!!

Michael Cannon, Cato Institute’s Director of Health Policy Studies on CSPAN-2 via MEDIAite.com

Expert Testifies to Congress that Obama’s ‘Ignoring Laws’ Could Lead to Overthrow of Government

During a congressional committee hearing about the constitutional limits imposed on the presidency and the implications of President Barack Obama’s disregard for implementing the Affordable Care Act as written, one expert testified that the consequences of the president’s behavior were potentially grave. He said that the precedent set by Obama could eventually lead to an armed revolt against the federal government.

“That is certainly something that no one wants to contemplate,” he continued. “If the people come to believe that the government is no longer constrained by the laws then they will conclude that neither are they.”

“That is a very dangerous sort of thing for the president to do, to wantonly ignore the laws,” Cannon concluded, “to try to impose obligation upon people that the legislature did not approve.”

Now, apply that to the 'wanton disregard for law' being displayed almost daily by the 'isolated occurrences' as I cited above ... or here at the NapTown Mall. Civil society has already started to breakdown, and it's NOT the constitutionally-astute who are breaking it down. The revolution is being fomented at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. It won't take much to ignite the fire since The One has been skillfully been distributing the 'tinder'.

Cloward & Piven is being played out before our eyes.

 

[Mr H]

I got a particularly WTF look on my face tonight, watching the news.

John Kerry, in a statement today, urged the Ukraine government to heed the wishes of their people.

I'll let that sink in for a second.......

I wonder if he'll say the same to the Prevaricator in Chief?!!

 

[Doctor_M]

It's like pornography.

"I can't define it. But I (will) know it when I see it."

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Well said.