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When All Else Fails.
With any luck, the Democrat MGA or ATF or FBI will see this thread and hopefully put an end to some of our antique and muzzle loading firearm freedoms.
Sounds like a good bet19th century = 1800s so G98 mauser.
Chinese type 53 carbine
Chinese type 56 sks
1908 brazilian 7mm mauser
Czech vz 24 8mm mauser
1930 hex reciever mosin nagant
1937 mosin nagant
1950 Mas 1936
Marlin model 25 wtt for a 12 gauge shotgun
Henry 22 lever
Mossberg 44us
I see nothing nefarious in the OP's quest for 19th century firearms. L-O-T-S of people buy Antique firearms as an extremely legal way of bypassing the NICS system. The ATF has deemed Pre-1899 firearms as Non-firearms. Folks will happily and unapologetically take advantage of that government generosity.
I hope the generousity continues. Especially with Sessions asking the ATF and FBI to look at current policy. I would hate to see any tax deals that involve the restructuring of our gun laws. Lots of Democrats see Pre-1899 purchases, with no background checks, as a gun buying loophole. And would like nothing more than to close it. As gun owners, we shouldn't be playing into their fears or help them with their destructive plans.
And it only makes sense that the OP would want ammunition for those antique rifles too. Cuzz guns are for shooting. I applaud the him for being interested in antique firearms and the history that comes with them. Not only are they a hoot to shoot, there is money to be made in them too.
Sounds like a good bet
Oh come on.
Mr. Oni, the OP describes himself as a "Military History Nut," and lists his collection in his sig line. He already has a bunch of guns:
He already has plenty of 20th Century guns. It looks to me like he wants to expand more into the past than the future.
I realize it is hard for many to comprehend, but not everyone is interested in guns as practical weapons. Not everyone cares about the newest tactical model from Heckler and Koch. Not everybody cares about AR 15s or Glock 19s. Some people enjoy shooting for shooting's sake, not as preparation for Close Quarters Battle. Some people really care about the history, and want to experience that history by actually using the old technology.
I remember years ago when I first joined the North-South Skirmish Association (a target shooting organization), I showed my new Parker Hale Three Band Pattern 1853 .577 musket to my brother in law, who had served as a combat rifleman in Viet Nam. After politely admiring the ungainly muzzleloader, he handed it back with the comment, "Not much good in an ambush, though."
No, not much good in a jungle ambush, but it is just the thing for busting hanging clay pots or 4" tiles in the musket matches on the N-SSA range. And in it's day, it held Marye's Heights and the Bloody Angle.
Different perspective on totally different purposes. I challenge you to broaden your perspective.
Good Post.
On the other hand, it looks like Mr. Oni really does want to avoid the red tape. However, he doesn't appear to be Prohibited.
My guess is this would be used to circumvent the NICS. I could be wrong, but when I hear people talking about pre 1899 rifles out of the blue, this gets my attention.
Only interested in a good gun with available ammo. No mention of collectability. Only interest is available ammo.
Interesting, interesting indeed.
Yes I wanted to know what I could buy without doing stupid paperwork and find readily available loaded ammo for. Sure lots of old ammo is still used today so I guess if I found a mosin dated before 1899 i could shoot it. Would love to have a Krag.
Excellent detective work, Agent Smith!
I'm a little disappointed that this thread is about avoiding paperwork. I was really looking forward to learning something about collecting. Might as well look for an Agentine Mauser
So let's say someone was interested in filling a few holes in their collection that were shaped kinda like a trapdoor and a Krag (maybe in both rifle and carbine configurations). If they wanted it to be a safe shooter, too, what would they look for? Obviously tight actions, and nothing bent, broken or missing...but are there any important details someone familiar with firearms but not these types specifically should look for? More importantly, what would they try to avoid? Are there any pitfalls (I'm thinking of things like Khyber Enfields or low numbered Springfields) that a casual collector needs to know about? That's kinda where I was hoping this thread would go so I could follow along and take notes
What about those Mausers from Argentina