What are the firearm requirements for wear and carry class?

[pleasant1911]

Is there a minimum caliber one has to qualify with to get a wear and carry permit. I read it’s 15 yards maximum with 70% accuracy. Does it matter if one brings a 22lr pistol? Does the instructors giving the classes and grading the marksmanship, set the target at the maximum requirement of 15 yards and require/expect you to shoot a certain caliber or would they let you shoot a 22lr at 7 yards?

 

[Garet Jax]

Caliber is unimportant - you can qualify using anything and carry anything once qualified.

Here is MSP's live fire requirement. Notice it's split into 2 - one for security professionals and one for everyone else.

 

[E.Shell]

Garet Jax is correct, but some instructors impose their own restrictions. Check with the instructor you plan to use and either honor his opinion or get another instructor.

 

[Bertfish]

Is there a minimum caliber one has to qualify with to get a wear and carry permit. I read it’s 15 yards maximum with 70% accuracy. Does it matter if one brings a 22lr pistol? Does the instructors giving the classes and grading the marksmanship, set the target at the maximum requirement of 15 yards and require/expect you to shoot a certain caliber or would they let you shoot a 22lr at 7 yards?

70% at 15 yards isn't a thing

It's 20/25 (80%) of hits on a B27 target

If my memory is correct
5 @ 3 yards
10 @ 7 yards
5 @ 10 yards
5 @ 15 yards

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong

 

[hillbilly grandpa]

No, it's 18 out of 25. A 70% score is required to pass. With MSP math at work a 70% score is impossible. 17 = 68%; 18 = 72%. There's no such score as 17.5.

 

[outrider58]

Garet Jax is correct, but some instructors impose their own restrictions. Check with the instructor you plan to use and either honor his opinion or get another instructor.

This. Mine had a minimum of 9mm for qualifying. It's BS, but check ahead.

 

[Alphabrew]

A guy in my W&C class did the qualification with a .22 pistol.

 

[Bertfish]

A guy in my W&C class did the qualification with a .22 pistol.

As did my wife

No requirement in law or regulation. Some instructors care though.

 

[Alphabrew]

As did my wife

No requirement in law or regulation. Some instructors care though.

The guy that used .22 in my class was in his early 20s and he had a noticeable learning disability. He was taking the class with his father. I’d be amazed if he gets a carry permit but he did get the class certificate.

 

[jokie]

And... the B27 is a huge target. Anything in the black is considered a hit.

 

[miles71]

Some Instructors, me included, want students to train with what they plan to carry. If a medical or other condition limit someone I make exceptions. There is no requirement for caliber in the law.

Like you said, if you don’t like what the instructor requires I am sure you can find another course. There seem to be plenty of instructors willing to do the minimum for their students.

TD

 

[Mark75H]

I allow students to qualify with .22, but the requirement is “to demonstrate proficiency”

I require a magazine of centerfire, preferably 9mm in addition to the qual.

 

[Mark75H]

The distances are 3, 5, 7 and 15

 

[ezracer]

So Yes it's 25 rnds . Minimum passing score 70% on a B-27 Silhouette. In reality 18 out of 25. All hits in the black.

5 rnds. @ 3 yrds
10 rnds @5 yrds
5 rnds @ 7 yrds
5 rnds @ 15 yrds

 

[linkstate]

Like others have said. Contact the instructor and ask. There is what the state requires and what some instructors require over and above.

I would just take what you have and have shot some. The target is huge. If you have even basic marksmanship skills and can safely handle and manipulate your firearm, you will pass.

For example, in my case I hadn’t decided on a carry gun. So I took my G19 and got a cheap Pole Craft holster off Amazon and did the class.

 

[pleasant1911]

Some Instructors, me included, want students to train with what they plan to carry. If a medical or other condition limit someone I make exceptions. There is no requirement for caliber in the law.

Like you said, if you don’t like what the instructor requires I am sure you can find another course. There seem to be plenty of instructors willing to do the minimum for their students.

TD

Isn’t that going against the whole 2A in theory. Now the state of Maryland allows you but the instructor are the obstacle of someone getting their permit. Why would any instructor care what caliber one uses? So the whole notion all law abiding citizens should be able carry is just total BS. So MD’s pro 2A instructors are still less gun friendly than VA gun laws for its residents.

I wouldn’t be surprised if instructors soon are giving out their own written test and interviews for people to the required classes. It s almost anti 2A

 

[pleasant1911]

Like others have said. Contact the instructor and ask. There is what the state requires and what some instructors require over and above.

I would just take what you have and have shot some. The target is huge. If you have even basic marksmanship skills and can safely handle and manipulate your firearm, you will pass.

For example, in my case I hadn’t decided on a carry gun. So I took my G19 and got a cheap Pole Craft holster off Amazon and did the class.

I was discussing with a friend and just wondering.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Isn’t that going against the whole 2A in theory. Now the state of Maryland allows you but the instructor are the obstacle of someone getting their permit. Why would any instructor care what caliber one uses? So the whole notion all law abiding citizens should be able carry is just total BS. So MD’s pro 2A instructors are still less gun friendly than VA gun laws for its residents.

I wouldn’t be surprised if instructors soon are giving out their own written test and interviews for people to the required classes. It s almost anti 2A

DEAD HORSE !
We've had at least a dozen threads on this .

* Place Minimum Burden possible for people to exercise Fundimental Right * vs * Moral Obligation to make reasonable efforts to instill a degree of Actual Competency in students , because it's Serious Business , if only for their survival . and that of those under their care and protection *

 

[Garet Jax]

So Yes it's 25 rnds . Minimum passing score 70% on a B-27 Silhouette. In reality 18 out of 25. All hits in the black.

5 rnds. @ 3 yrds
10 rnds @5 yrds
5 rnds @ 7 yrds
5 rnds @ 15 yrds

Right - the way the numbers play out, the student can miss 100% of their 15 yards shots and still pass.

 

[4g64loser]

Isn’t that going against the whole 2A in theory. Now the state of Maryland allows you but the instructor are the obstacle of someone getting their permit. Why would any instructor care what caliber one uses? So the whole notion all law abiding citizens should be able carry is just total BS. So MD’s pro 2A instructors are still less gun friendly than VA gun laws for its residents.

I wouldn’t be surprised if instructors soon are giving out their own written test and interviews for people to the required classes. It s almost anti 2A

Their business, their rules. Contact other businesses. If they have different rules, use them. The market is not restrictive. At least for now, it is not terribly difficult to get the QHIC.

I may have disliked the rules when I had to go get a cert to teach on a contract (they were in addition to the fed standards and specific to the instructor/facility qualifying us) but that's what I had to deal with.