Weird Question Regarding Hellcat Pro 9mm

[Occam]

MD is not going to retroactively change the passing qual score.

Well, not unless someone gives them the idea…

 

[hogarth]

I had no idea there were exemptions available. Even if there were, I'd have taken the training course regardless. My biggest fear, a thing I fear even more than the horror of having to use a gun in self-defense, is the legal aftermath. This is Maryland, a "duty to retreat" state, with a very anti-gun anti-defense group of prosecutors. Even if 16 hours wasn't required by MD, I'd have enrolled in any course I found that schooled me on all the legalities of conceal/carry here. It was well worth the money, though I must admit my mind isn't any more at ease because of it. If you're forced to fire your gun to save your life, you're still likely to get dragged through the courts it seems.

I also do intend to take additional training. I'd like my reaction in a "life or death" situation to be trained for to the point of becoming muscle memory. I know firsthand how shock, disbelief, & adrenaline can throw you for a loop in a sudden crisis. Training for it saves lives.

Sounds good. And sorry if I came off as a jerk (or worse) before.

I for one am all about training (which has come to annoy many members here).

 

[Rockzilla]

Other half has the Hellcat Pro, 7 mags, never happened, with any of them. So thats a new one on me.

-Rock

 

[Art3]

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However, I am going to rent one this weekend (probably the same one if I can find it), & try to figure out what was causing the malfunction. I also need to decide if I really want a Hellcat Pro or maybe I need to explore other micro subcompacts. I just have yet to even hear a single person hating on that gun so I'm 99% onboard with buying one.

Any luck with this?

 

[Raineman]

As a Hellcat Pro owner/"carryer", I have only had to get used to a certain thing with it. The mags need to be SLAMMED home on mine. Not sure if it is like that with all of them, or just mine. Now, if I slam a mag in on a closed slide, the top round will get a little dent in it. Racking the slide to load a round just loads a round, does not eject one from the mag. However, I notice that when I slam a mag in on an open slide, the slide closes on its own and chambers a round. Again, not sure if they are all like that, but mine is. None of my other pistols do that. I definitely am aware of it when I choose the Pro to carry or at the range, because when I first started shooting it, it was not a natural progression for me and got my attention very fast.

Other than that and the fact it weighs as much as a boat anchor, I've had no issues with it.

 

[Schipperke]

I have a Hellcat on order, but if the UAW goes on strike probably not going to happen.

 

[Art3]

Update from the OP?

 

[ground chuck]

This scenario has not happen to me. I feed and rack it just like any other 9mm

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[Art3]

Still no update?

 

[outrider58]

Still no update?

It's hard to type with two blowed-up hands...

 

[EXIT WOUND]

Sounds like the mag may be bad. It don't take much for them to malfunction.

 

[Art3]

It's hard to type with two blowed-up hands...

Hmm...that may indeed be the update

So, I guess I won't be buying a hellcat any time soon

 

[Bountied]

Unless I'm truly misunderstanding something, it sounds like you already had one in the pipe when you went to rack the slide.

How would that cause that issue unless it didn't extract?

 

[Occam]

How would that cause that issue unless it didn't extract?

Because the observation that racking the slide DID cause one to eject would be easily explained in just that way. His unorthodox way of loading up sounded like it could easily get confused into just that mode.

 

[Bountied]

Because the observation that racking the slide DID cause one to eject would be easily explained in just that way. His unorthodox way of loading up sounded like it could easily get confused into just that mode.

He said he had the slide locked back, loaded a mag, and then slingshoted the slide closed. How would that cause a round to be ejected? Seems like the slide going back caused a round to be expelled from the magazine which is odd. I guess I'd have to see the malfunction to understand it.

 

[Occam]

He said he had the slide locked back, loaded a mag, and then slingshoted the slide closed. How would that cause a round to be ejected? Seems like the slide going back caused a round to be expelled from the magazine which is odd. I guess I'd have to see the malfunction to understand it.

He initially described CLOSING the slide, inserting a mag, then operating the slide to chamber a round. Most people would do what you describe (starting with the slide locked back, inserting a mag, then going into battery). Read through his posts. He sticks with that method for some reason, but is confident that he's not doing anything unusual.

 

[Bountied]

He initially described CLOSING the slide, inserting a mag, then operating the slide to chamber a round. Most people would do what you describe (starting with the slide locked back, inserting a mag, then going into battery). Read through his posts. He sticks with that method for some reason, but is confident that he's not doing anything unusual.

Derp, you're right, I read it wrong. Yeah I don't know. Could the mag be so full that the top round is getting pulled off when racking? I know when some of my mags are at max capacity it's almost impossible to get the mag release to catch when trying to insert the mag, which is why when my mag is full I lock the slide back then insert the mag with no pressure and slingshot.

 

[Schipperke]

Sounds like the mag may be bad. It don't take much for them to malfunction.

My Sig 226 has done exactly as OP states. Rack slide and rounds start popping out of magazine instantly. You let go of slide and typically won't close, couple rounds lodged in there. One time like four rounds flew out, slide closed and chambered a round.

 

[outrider58]

Could the problem be with the mag? Out of spec feed lips maybe?

This was my suspicion.

A situation similar to this may have occurred. Similar, but different.

 

[EXIT WOUND]

My Sig 226 has done exactly as OP states. Rack slide and rounds start popping out of magazine instantly. You let go of slide and typically won't close, couple rounds lodged in there. One time like four rounds flew out, slide closed and chambered a round.

Does this same thing happen with multiple mags? I like to number my mags in case these things happen to give reference to which mags don't want to play nice.