W&C Permit references question

[lazarus]

After marrying a round American woman?

Only if a couple of her attributes are round if you know what I mean...

I did look for a job up in Alaska awhile back. Sadly, never heard back. It would have only meant joining the Alaska Air National Guard. I mean, I was 12 months from the maximum age, but I guess they were ageist...

 

[Nobody]

I asked my neighbor of 17 years to be a reference, theysaid sure no problem. I did a md judiciary case search on them. Let's just say they were not of good character to get a reference from. If MSP had checked them out i probably would not have gotten a permit.

Might be a good idea to check out your references.

Nobody

 

[camo556]

I'd like to list Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Roberts as my references and just give them the front desk number at the Supreme Court.

LMAO Dooooo it!

 

[Allen65]

LMAO Dooooo it!

There's actually a kernel of a good idea in there. The application will get rejected if the Justices' names are used because MSP would question if they actually knew you. But what if an applicant used the names of some of Thomas' and Alito's clerks? Or Paul Clement? They may actually get called by MSP, and that would be a fun sh*tstorm to watch.

 

[Trumpet]

There's actually a kernel of a good idea in there. The application will get rejected if the Justices' names are used because MSP would question if they actually knew you. But what if an applicant used the names of some of Thomas' and Alito's clerks? Or Paul Clement? They may actually get called by MSP, and that would be a fun sh*tstorm to watch.

That would be awesome

 

[Allen65]

That would be awesome

Anybody know Paul Clement's new office number?

 

[swinokur]

I will raise rabbits


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[Trumpet]

I've been a reference. It is not that big of a deal unless there are specific questions about the subject of investigation regarding past issues or employment. One guy they had some questions about his on job conduct (carried a gun) but never more than a twenty minute conversation.

The actual subject gets the long conversation with the msp.

Well, that's a concern too. I mean if it's "are they a good employee/citizen/etc?" I should be fine. But if MSP is all like "Do you think Trumpet is good to go with a CCW?", I'm sure they'd say "noooooooo! Guns are scary and stuff"

 

[teratos]

Well, that's a concern too. I mean if it's "are they a good employee/citizen/etc?" I should be fine. But if MSP is all like "Do you Trumpet is good to go with a CCW?", I'm sure they'd say "noooooooo! Guns are scary and stuff"

It’s going to happen. The lawsuit will be interesting.

 

[SWO Daddy]

It’s going to happen. The lawsuit will be interesting.

I know that as part of a Federal security clearance background investigation, a denied applicant can request/receive reference interview/survey records.

I imagine that MD doesn't provide any of this short of a lawsuit, but they are going to have to start doing so if they use it as justification to deny people their rights.

 

[babalou]

and why do we need references for a right? the 1A requires as such?

 

[teratos]

I know that as part of a Federal security clearance background investigation, a denied applicant can request/receive reference interview/survey records.

I imagine that MD doesn't provide any of this short of a lawsuit, but they are going to have to start doing so if they use it as justification to deny people their rights.

You have to be adjudicated to be a felon or mental defective to be deprived of 2A Rights. This will survive THT. Nothing short of that will do. Carry is now a core right.

 

[Trumpet]

You have to be adjudicated to be a felon or mental defective to be deprived of 2A Rights. This will survive THT. Nothing short of that will do. Carry is now a core right.

So going by that, unless I'm a felon (which I'm not) it doesn't matter what my supervisor says then? If so, that's good but I still don't like the idea of them even knowing...

 

[teratos]

So going by that, unless I'm a felon (which I'm not) it doesn't matter what my supervisor says then? If so, that's good but I still don't like the idea of them even knowing...

Why would it matter? Just a word from your supervisor can suspend your practice of a civil right? No. That’s not how this works.

 

[Trumpet]

Oh, I get that. I don't like the idea of my super even knowing because....

A. It's none of their damn business
2. It's probably the MOST rabidly anti-2A profession out there...

 

[teratos]

Oh, I get that. I don't like the idea of my super even knowing because....

A. It's none of their damn business
2. It's probably the MOST rabidly anti-2A profession out there...

The lefties are all high on privacy for abortion, which isn’t anywhere in the Constitution. Wait until they see privacy issues for an enumerated right.

 

[Inigoes]

I will park this here. A major win in PA in 2016.

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[Kinetic]

I'm getting ready to submit my information for a permit but something is bugging me.
On page 28 of the instructions at the MSP W&C licensing form they want the reference's phone number, E-mail address, mailing address, employer and employer's phone number.

Is this for real? I thought they only required phone# and E-mail address for references. I don't want to piss off my hard won references by asking for the additional info. Am I misreading this?

 

[Batt816]

I'm getting ready to submit my information for a permit but something is bugging me.
On page 28 of the instructions at the MSP W&C licensing form they want the reference's phone number, E-mail address, mailing address, employer and employer's phone number.

Is this for real? I thought they only required phone# and E-mail address for references. I don't want to piss off my hard won references by asking for the additional info. Am I misreading this?

I didn’t enter email or employer #

 

[buddy357]

I'm getting ready to submit my information for a permit but something is bugging me.
On page 28 of the instructions at the MSP W&C licensing form they want the reference's phone number, E-mail address, mailing address, employer and employer's phone number.

Is this for real? I thought they only required phone# and E-mail address for references. I don't want to piss off my hard won references by asking for the additional info. Am I misreading this?

This is my concern as well. I have folks willing to be references. They aren’t willing to give employer and employers phone. That’s making it sound like your references have to have references who can be contacted and that is a bridge too far.