Victory in MSI HQL suit

[swinokur]

Win

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.164615/gov.uscourts.ca4.164615.58.0.pdf

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[Stoveman]

Glad I didn't renew mine last month. Good job to all.

 

[swinokur]

I renewed last month. I want my 20 bucks back

 

[adit]

I renewed last month. I want my 20 bucks back

Sucka

 

[RFBfromDE]

Details.

When can I go pick up my new toy without an HQL or 77R.

The link is appreciated but unclear to a layperson.

 

[swinokur]

I am also a lay person. The decision was just released within the past hour. We will wait for our legal team to issue guidance

 

[ChannelCat]

Details.

When can I go pick up my new toy without an HQL or 77R.

The link is appreciated but unclear to a layperson.

Not sure, but like everything else, it will probably go all the way to the Supreme Court. This is why we need to get Brandon out of the White House next year.

 

[6-Pack]

Reading now, but my preliminary read is that HQL is dead in the water

"Plaintiffs’ challenge thus must succeed, and the district court’s contrary decision must be REVERSED"

 

[adit]

How far of a stretch is it to say that training is no longer required for the W&C based on what the judges said in the ruling?

 

[swinokur]

Why bother to appeal? The Bruen reasoning was used to win this. SCOTUS isn’t going to change their reasoning

Of course the rabid gun grabber in the MGA will toss away our money to make themselves feel good.

Let the hand wringing begin. I’m going to get my boots on for the upcoming rivers of blood

 

[Trbo6gn]

Now we need the wait period BS to go away.

 

[swinokur]

How far of a stretch is it to say that training is no longer required for the W&C based on what the judges said in the ruling?u

No

 

[outrider58]

I am also a lay person. The decision was just releases within the past hour. We will wait for our legal team to issue guidance

 

[remrug]

What happens to these types of rulings if and when the Supreme Court changes into a left leaning majority ? We got very lucky with the timing of recent 2A rulings.

 

[hillbilly grandpa]

We are, I assume, expecting the state to appeal. Correct?

 

[swinokur]

The only bad scenario is if overturned en Banc and then SCOTUS refuses to grant CERT.

I doubt SCOTUS will allow the method from Bruen to be tampered with by an En Banc panel.

If en Banc reverses SCOTUS will take it and give them a royal slap down

 

[Stoveman]

We are, I assume, expecting the state to appeal. Correct?

IANAL but I believe the next step would be a possible en banc hearing, if this is overturned at that time I'm sure MSI et al would appeal to the Supremes and what does the MD AG's office think would happen then?

This one is dead, give it a proper burial and move on. They still have the 77R and a waiting period.

 

[swinokur]

Would that they had any common sense.

Alas their brains are as barren as our field of phucks

 

[Garet Jax]

We are, I assume, expecting the state to appeal. Correct?

They control the 4th circuit so yes. This is doubly true if the Dems can win the election net year. They might be able to change the makeup of the court and overturn Bruen.

 

[Garet Jax]

The only bad scenario is if overturned en Banc and then SCOTUS refuses to grant CERT.

I doubt SCOTUS will allow the method from Bruen to be tampered with by an En Banc panel.

If en Banc reverses SCOTUS will take it and give them a royal slap down

IANAL but I believe the next step would be a possible en banc hearing, if this is overturned at that time I'm sure MSI et al would appeal to the Supremes and what does the MD AG's office think would happen then?

This one is dead, give it a proper burial and move on. They still have the 77R and a waiting period.

It will be interesting to see if they appeal how quickly the case is taken up and decided by the court. Since the opinion right now has effectively killed the HQL, it is in C4's best interest to take it up quickly and overturn it to keep the HQL restrictions in place - just like they did with Judge Legg's opinion on "good & substantial" years ago.