Verbal De-Escalation and Conflict Resolution Course

[Phoenix_1295]

This may be of interest to those who carry. There are virtual offerings, so you can attend from the comfort of your home.

Presented by the National Criminal Justice Training Center (NCJTC).

Verbal De-Escalation and Conflict Resolution

May 17-18, 2023 | Virtual | Avoid potential conflict both professionally and personally by learning to organize your thinking and respond calmly. Consider the approaches you can take to prevent and respond to verbal conflict. This course will explore the communication process, conflict...

ncjtc.fvtc.edu

 

[joppaj]

That's very interesting.

 

[Bertfish]

Let them pass HB824 and this will be mandatory part of the CCW training

 

[4g64loser]

Without actually viewing the training yet, I will be cautiously optimistic. If done well, de-escalation is a good tool. If it's "be a good victim" stuff like the workplace "safety" videos that were all the rage, that's BS.

Avoidance and escape are preferable to engagement, generally speaking. Any tool can have it's place. When subject to a blitz attack, verbal de-escalation is not a viable tool. When approached by an unknown subject on the street who engages verbally, it's best to have some options short of pulling a gun.

 

[MJD438]

Let them pass HB824 and this will be mandatory part of the CCW training

Except the bill requires teaching the "law", which doesn't exist in statute, making compliance with that section impossible.

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[Some Guy]

It's an interesting course.

I read this college's annual financial report. They get a lot of federal and state grants for their programs. I sent them a note to find out if they used federal and state grant money to develop and present the course, and if so, if the registration cost can be eliminated because the public has already paid for the course development with their taxes. It's a long shot but if she comes back with a reduced cost or elimination of cost I'll let you know.

Here's the financial report from the school, see pages 91-96 for information about government grants.

https://www.fvtc.edu/Portals/0/PDFs/About-Us/Facts/Comprehensive-Annual-Financial-Reports/annual-report-ending-fy-june-30-2022.pdf

 

[MaxVO2]

Without actually viewing the training yet, I will be cautiously optimistic. If done well, de-escalation is a good tool. If it's "be a good victim" stuff like the workplace "safety" videos that were all the rage, that's BS.

****This. Having more tools available to hopefully prevent having to draw and shoot someone through verbal de-escalation and other such techniques has its place. There are obviously situations where it will decidedly not work (if you are attacked unprovoked, with possible deadly force, etc..).

Looks like an interesting course.

 

[braceyourse1ves]

Very interesting, reminds me of those shoot don't shoot scenarios, more tools in your pocket to use in case you need it

 

[4g64loser]

Very interesting, reminds me of those shoot don't shoot scenarios, more tools in your pocket to use in case you need it

Shameless plug for craig douglas; he does some great courses in this vein. Yes I paid full price. And would have spent more.

Even if you intend to employ a tool on a threat who is engaging verbally or physically with you, there can be openings, created by verbal or nonverbal communication, that offer you an advantage in time or opponent focus to access a tool.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Who does your estate sue if deescalation doesn’t work and you get shot?

 

[RFBfromDE]

Who does your estate sue if deescalation doesn’t work and you get shot?

De-escalation? Maybe…

Emasculation? Definitely!

 

[hogarth]

Who does your estate sue if deescalation doesn’t work and you get shot?

Who does your estate sue if you took 43 shooting courses and you get shot?

 

[Bob A]

Avoidance and escape are preferable to engagement, generally speaking. Any tool can have it's place. When subject to a blitz attack, verbal de-escalation is not a viable tool. When approached by an unknown subject on the street who engages verbally, it's best to have some options short of pulling a gun.

Pepper gel is a reasonable non-lethal option. The mere sight of it has de-escalated a couple situations for me.

 

[Blaster229]

"verbal judo" from the early 90s was a joke.

 

[4g64loser]

Pepper gel is a reasonable non-lethal option. The mere sight of it has de-escalated a couple situations for me.

Yes, it is an option. And a good one.

 

[joppaj]

"verbal judo" from the early 90s was a joke.

They made A FORTUNE on that course.

 

[Threeband]

"verbal judo" from the early 90s was a joke.

They made A FORTUNE on that course.

I've heard of it. What was it like? Entirely worthless or just padded and commercialized?

 

[Blaster229]

I've heard of it. What was it like? Entirely worthless or just padded and commercialized?

I forgot the original guy who started it. And actually, never even paid attention to it. Made it through working the streets just fine without it.

Verbal judo=just don't say stuff to escalate anything.
That being said, if someone is wanting to fight, they will and you aren't talking them down.

 

[joppaj]

I've heard of it. What was it like? Entirely worthless or just padded and commercialized?

It isn't wholly dissimilar to the "active listening" that's taught now. Maybe of some value to someone in a mental health crisis but not widely applicable to the broader population.

 

[Some Guy]

It's an interesting course.

I read this college's annual financial report. They get a lot of federal and state grants for their programs. I sent them a note to find out if they used federal and state grant money to develop and present the course, and if so, if the registration cost can be eliminated because the public has already paid for the course development with their taxes. It's a long shot but if she comes back with a reduced cost or elimination of cost I'll let you know.

Here's the financial report from the school, see pages 91-96 for information about government grants.

https://www.fvtc.edu/Portals/0/PDFs/About-Us/Facts/Comprehensive-Annual-Financial-Reports/annual-report-ending-fy-june-30-2022.pdf

I contacted the guy that runs the course and he said that they don't used federal or state money for this course. I asked if we had 5-10 people that might want to enroll in the course could we get a discount. He said he'd be up for talking about it.

If you are interested in taking this course please PM me by Thursday morning. Once I have an idea of the number of people that are interested we can check in w/ the course guy and see what he says.

Thanks.