Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988

[Boom Boom]

The polymer guns might not last as long as a metal one, but for $500K in material - you can print a lot of them

$500K is for the printer. The powered metal is not the expensive part per my understanding.

 

[llkoolkeg]

How much did that cost?

More than you make in a month...or would I be surprised by how much you make in a month?

 

[Inigoes]

$500K is for the printer. The powered metal is not the expensive part per my understanding.

Clarification:
$1500 for a 3D polymer printer + $500K material = a lot of guns
$500K for a metal printer = 1 gun

 

[Brooklyn]

Let's fight this one.. if we let it pass they may figure out that airport scanners can now detect plastic...

Oh my....

 

[abean4187]

Republican House, this is going to expire. Let freedom ring.

Also, bullets are metal as are firing pins. This whole, “Er meh Gawd! Plaztic Gunz will let the terrorizt winz!” comments are retarded. Terrorists gave up on getting on planes a long time ago. They use bombs, gun free zones, and large crowds to their advantage now.

 

[XCheckR]

As i dug the confirmation email from Duffy's out of my spam folder, i found an email from Blabby Gabby Gifford on this very topic.....

 

[Brooklyn]

Republican House, this is going to expire. Let freedom ring.

Also, bullets are metal as are firing pins. This whole, “Er meh Gawd! Plaztic Gunz will let the terrorizt winz!” comments are retarded. Terrorists gave up on getting on planes a long time ago. They use bombs, gun free zones, and large crowds to their advantage now.

The fireing chanber the barrel.. anything that is needed to make it go bang.. blue guns will be outlawed... .

 

[Boom Boom]

Clarification:
$1500 for a 3D polymer printer + $500K material = a lot of guns
$500K for a metal printer = 1 gun

Apples, avocados. And misses the big picture. Polymer printing technology is well-developed and just now hitting commodity status. Metal printing technology I'm referencing is one-off proof of concept. And it works. Think economy of scale down the road and endless uses beyond firearms. You could print your own parts for machinery, tools, motors/engines, braces/brackets, boxes/cases/enclosures, etc. The possibilities and business opportunities are endless. I use polymer printers in my profession. While useful for prototypes and fragile test fitting, absolutely nothing beats metal, with (expensive) injection-molded thermoplastics coming in second.

 

[danb]

how are they going to find your undetectable firearms?

 

[jrumann59]

Apples, avocados. And misses the big picture. Polymer printing technology is well-developed and just now hitting commodity status. Metal printing technology I'm referencing is one-off proof of concept. And it works. Think economy of scale down the road and endless uses beyond firearms. You could print your own parts for machinery, tools, motors/engines, braces/brackets, boxes/cases/enclosures, etc. The possibilities and business opportunities are endless. I use polymer printers in my profession. While useful for prototypes and fragile test fitting, absolutely nothing beats metal, with (expensive) injection-molded thermoplastics coming in second.

I could see 3d metal printing replacing die-cast stuff and some MIM stuff but anything that will see stress will need to be forged

 

[DoubleTap007]

It's two notches easier than making a CAT scan machine.

LOL

 

[Inigoes]

Republican House, this is going to expire. Let freedom ring.

A gun grabbing Republican President signed it into law initially! Ronald Reagan was not a friend to gun owners, eventhough he banned the fringes of the 2A (Hughes amendment also).

Don't put too much faith in a single party, they will let you down.

 

[JohnnyE]

I'm wondering out loud (NOT making a suggestion) that this may be an opportunity to do some horse-trading with the antis. Federal legislation has always gone one way-against us. Is there a chance to turn this?

While I don't think there was anything that a majority of us were willing to accept in exchange for extending the UNACCEPTABLE AWB as it was getting ready to expire, is there something we may be willing to take in trade for extending the undetectible firearms act? Universal concealed carry, for example? I'm sure most will say NO, though I just wanted to start a lively discussion.

 

[Inigoes]

I'm wondering out loud (NOT making a suggestion) that this may be an opportunity to do some horse-trading with the antis. Federal legislation has always gone one way-against us. Is there a chance to turn this?

While I don't think there was anything that a majority of us were willing to accept in exchange for extending the UNACCEPTABLE AWB as it was getting ready to expire, is there something we may be willing to take in trade for extending the undetectible firearms act? Universal concealed carry, for example? I'm sure most will say NO, though I just wanted to start a lively discussion.

Nullification of the Hughes Amendment?

 

[Brooklyn]

I'm wondering out loud (NOT making a suggestion) that this may be an opportunity to do some horse-trading with the antis. Federal legislation has always gone one way-against us. Is there a chance to turn this?

While I don't think there was anything that a majority of us were willing to accept in exchange for extending the UNACCEPTABLE AWB as it was getting ready to expire, is there something we may be willing to take in trade for extending the undetectible firearms act? Universal concealed carry, for example? I'm sure most will say NO, though I just wanted to start a lively discussion.

Short answer no. They have nothing to trade. After the court rules we will have ss or is and then we can talk. If we do not have is or ss the discussion moves to constitutional convention.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT GUNS. ITS ABOUT LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

Lively enough for ya?

 

[JohnnyE]

Short answer no. They have nothing to trade. After the court rules we will have ss or is and then we can talk. If we do not have is or ss the discussion moves to constitutional convention.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT GUNS. ITS ABOUT LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

Lively enough for ya?

Two posts?! Not even warmed up yet!

 

[Alan3413]

How hard is it to make a 3d printer?

Just get a 3D printer to print you one.

 

[Threeband]

I got one of those undetectable invisible guns years ago.

Unfortunately after I brought it home, I laid it down somewhere and I haven't been able to find it again.

 

[Brooklyn]

Two posts?! Not even warmed up yet!

One round one body -- done.

 

[Inigoes]

It appears Congress only has next week (M-Th) to renew the "Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988" before the Dec 9 deadline, where plastic handguns would become legal once again...