Two Pro-Gun Bills Headed to Congress After Recess

[Garet Jax]

This is news to me - can anyone more knowledgeable weigh in on it please? These seem like very common sense laws to put into place.

 

[Tomcat]

Unless the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, doesn't specify a permit from your state of residence, we're screwed.

 

[RightNYer]

Why are they wasting time with the National Reciprocity Bill again? Unless it's attached to something else (must pass that Obongo can't veto), it'll never go anywhere.

 

[swinokur]

It says state issued permit. Nothing about home state permit .

If the article is accurate.

 

[Mr H]

It says state issued permit. Nothing about home state permit .

If the article is accurate.

You know Steny, Benny, and the Troll will want to get THAT changed!!!

 

[swinokur]

oh yeah.

 

[Mooseman]

They are very common sense. This is why neither one will go anywhere.

 

[tangent]

Three Federal Bills That Would Repeal Anti-Gun Laws
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/08/three-federal-bills-that-would-repeal-anti-gun-laws/#axzz2bQHdtiVW

Repealing the Gun Free School Zone Act
H.R. 35 by Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36) and H.R. 133 by Rep. Thomas Massie (KY-04)

Veterans Second Amendment Protection
H.R. 602 by Rep. Jeff Miller (Fl-1) and H.R. 577 by Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36)

Repealing the Sporting Purposes Distinction
H.R. 2277 by Rep. Doug Collins (GA-9)

-t

 

[danb]

national reciprocity will eventally pass, if not now then after the 2014 elections. It only needs three more in the senate. Based on Nate Silvers odds there are 59 1/2 votes for reciprocity in 2015, vs 57 in april of this year. won't help Marylander's too much until we are shall issue. If anti gunners were smart theyd let federal law force the final 8 states to shall issue as well. They'd bargain it for some win on background checks, rather than risk a SCOTUS showdown. This year may be their last chance, there is a better than even chance of a Red Senate in 2015. Time is not on their side, but they seem very good at willful blindness and denial.

 

[jpk1md]

Three Federal Bills That Would Repeal Anti-Gun Laws
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/08/three-federal-bills-that-would-repeal-anti-gun-laws/#axzz2bQHdtiVW

Repealing the Gun Free School Zone Act
H.R. 35 by Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36) and H.R. 133 by Rep. Thomas Massie (KY-04)

Veterans Second Amendment Protection
H.R. 602 by Rep. Jeff Miller (Fl-1) and H.R. 577 by Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36)

Repealing the Sporting Purposes Distinction
H.R. 2277 by Rep. Doug Collins (GA-9)

-t

Anything that rolls back federal infringements is a good thing.

 

[CrueChief]

Why are they wasting time with the National Reciprocity Bill again? Unless it's attached to something else (must pass that Obongo can't veto), it'll never go anywhere.

Seem reason they keep voting to repeal obamacare.

 

[Straightshooter]

They should have attached it to the bill that exempted the lawmakers from Obamacare.

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

They should have attached it to the bill that exempted the lawmakers from Obamacare.

Ding-ding . . . A winner. I suspect the timing of this has a little to do with giving the congress-critters something to point out to their constituency while home on break.

 

[press1280]

Unfortunately when Ron Paul introduced a similiar repeal of the GFSZ in 2011, it didn't even get out of committee or get another co-sponsor. This is with a GOP House.
Most likely the courts will deal with it before Congress does.

 

[jpk1md]

Unfortunately when Ron Paul introduced a similiar repeal of the GFSZ in 2011, it didn't even get out of committee or get another co-sponsor. This is with a GOP House.
Most likely the courts will deal with it before Congress does.

GOP leadership is trying to shove amnasty down our throats.....what makes you think they are or ever were on our side?

 

[press1280]

GOP leadership is trying to shove amnasty down our throats.....what makes you think they are or ever were on our side?

You only have 2 options right now in Congress: Dems and GOP. Under which party do you think it's MORE likely to pass? I'm thinking of reality, not what I wish would happen.

 

[miles71]

Gun free zones have been confusing to me. Doesn't it say somewhere in the act that if you have a permit issued by a LE agency you are exempt? Since permits are issues by the MSP doesn't that mean someone with a permit can carry on school property? But then I also remember the state saying they don't even want LEO to carry on school property!

It's is amazing how silly this all is. It's almost like the kids aren't worthy of the intelligence it would take to protect them. I still think if a group of parents started on the school system and didn't stop until things got changed........but that's crazy talk.

TD

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

Gun free zones have been confusing to me. Doesn't it say somewhere in the act that if you have a permit issued by a LE agency you are exempt? Since permits are issues by the MSP doesn't that mean someone with a permit can carry on school property? But then I also remember the state saying they don't even want LEO to carry on school property!

It's is amazing how silly this all is. It's almost like the kids aren't worthy of the intelligence it would take to protect them. I still think if a group of parents started on the school system and didn't stop until things got changed........but that's crazy talk.

TD

The permit has to be issued from the state in which you reside and is only effective against free school zones in that state. I don't believe it allows you to carry on campus, but I may be wrong about that.

 

[press1280]

Gun free zones have been confusing to me. Doesn't it say somewhere in the act that if you have a permit issued by a LE agency you are exempt? Since permits are issues by the MSP doesn't that mean someone with a permit can carry on school property? But then I also remember the state saying they don't even want LEO to carry on school property!

It's is amazing how silly this all is. It's almost like the kids aren't worthy of the intelligence it would take to protect them. I still think if a group of parents started on the school system and didn't stop until things got changed........but that's crazy talk.

TD

It means you're exempt from Federal charges, not from any possible state charges. What's unclear is how the Feds would treat a reciprocal permit at a school where carry is allowed under state law. Perhaps one of these school districts that is allowing it has an out of state teacher w/a reciprocal permit. Would be a great test case.

 

[miles71]

Quote:
Originally Posted by miles71
Gun free zones have been confusing to me. Doesn't it say somewhere in the act that if you have a permit issued by a LE agency you are exempt? Since permits are issues by the MSP doesn't that mean someone with a permit can carry on school property? But then I also remember the state saying they don't even want LEO to carry on school property!

It's is amazing how silly this all is. It's almost like the kids aren't worthy of the intelligence it would take to protect them. I still think if a group of parents started on the school system and didn't stop until things got changed........but that's crazy talk.

TD
The permit has to be issued from the state in which you reside and is only effective against free school zones in that state. I don't believe it allows you to carry on campus, but I may be wrong about that.

So someone with the ilusive md permit is exempt from the gun free zones in md public schools?.. Whhhhaaaaatttttt