Turn a Glock into a Carbine...

[Zombie_013]

Does anyone have one of these for their Glock? Sorry if this has been discussed before. I did search for the topic and did not find anything.


http://www.amazon.com/Mako-Glock-Ca...0C/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1322161693&sr=8-27

 

[teratos]

IIRC, it becomes a SBR and you need a tax stamp.

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[Buck]

I've been thinking about the same thing. The product description says "If you own a host pistol and buy this product, your pistol will become a short-barreled rifle. You must first register your pistol with the ATFE using ATFE Form 1." I'm not really sure what that means.

 

[teratos]

I've been thinking about the same think. The product description says "If you own a host pistol and buy this product, your pistol will become a short-barreled rifle. You must first register your pistol with the ATFE using ATFE Form 1." I'm not really sure what that means.

A short barreled rifle has a barrel less than 16". You need to fill out the proper paperwork. Get fingerprinted and photographed. Send it all to MD State Police so they can sign off on it. Then send it to the ATF with a $200 check. In 4-5 months, you will get a tax stamp back from them.

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[Zombie_013]

hmmm...are you sure? it still functions as a pistol. this seems like a grey area.

 

[Bart_man]

I've had my eye on the h.e.r.a. sbr carbine conversion

 

[teratos]

hmmm...are you sure? it still functions as a pistol. this seems like a grey area.

Not a gray area to the ATF. It is now a rifle with a barrel < 16". It is a short barreled rifle.

 

[erwos]

hmmm...are you sure? it still functions as a pistol. this seems like a grey area.

This is not a gray area. If the gun has a stock, it's a rifle. If the barrel on a rifle is less than 16", it's an SBR. Using the kit that the OP linked to will make your Glock into an SBR. This is not the end of the world if you really like the kit; you just need to do the NFA paperwork and pay for the tax stamp ($200). (Of course, now you need to tell the BATFE whenever you take your Glock out of the state, too!)

Of course, CAA might have something of interest for you:
http://store.commandarms.com/products/RONICG1.html

Personally, I think a Sub-2000 makes more sense...

 

[damifinowfish]

You can not take a long gun and cut it up to be a pistol.

You can not take a pistol and make a rifle out it

I can not take my Thompson Contender frame that is registered as a pistol turn, it into a rifle, and then go back to the pistol configuration. This has been beat to death on other boards and several letters from BATF have been posted to back this up.

Be very careful doing basement gunsmithing. I know several LE officers shoot at the range I shoot at. Lots of them are on the federal side. Some of them are even with BATF. The BATF guys have the best toys to shoot!

Keep these fun toys home and keep yourself out of jail.

 

[jawn]

Definitely not a gray area. Once you add a stock (detachable or not) to a handgun, you've made a SBR. Illegally.

If you're serious about this, you have to do a Form 1 on your Glock as an SBR with the ATF and get your Glock engraved. After you get your stamp, you can proceed. A lot of these parts are pretty innocuous by themselves, but you can easily get yourself into a lot of trouble.

A vertical foregrip on a Glock seems like a funny joke, until you're doing 10 years for manufacturing an illegal AOW.

 

[engineerbrian]

I shot one of these in full auto at Knob Creek a few years back....it was bad ass!

 

[StantonCree]

A guy at work has one and brought it in. His is suppressed and is the RTF glock 17. To me it's an expensive ass plinker but I mean you can't really go wrong, it is a glock. Suprisingly they are actually pretty comfortable and decently balanced. I have never shot it so I can't comment on that but it has it's niche.

It's like a sub2k but way more expensive and more reliable.

As far as the SBR stuff obviously that's already been mentioned.

 

[Zombie_013]

Thanks for the clarification

 

[erwos]

You can not take a pistol and make a rifle out it

This is not true, at least not anymore. The BATFE recently issued a ruling allowing pistol->rifle->pistol conversions, as per the ruling in the T/C case. Note that this does not mean you get free pistol->SBR->pistol conversions!!! Also, the gun has to originally have been a pistol... so no taking your AR-15 rifle receiver and using it in a pistol build.

 

[lilgibby]

sbr tax stamps for a pistol conversion imo is just down right theft from the atf, i want a roni for my px4 but idk maybe ill just wait till later on and just do it with a future glock purchase. still have to go through the bs but w.e. i think those roni kits are so slick looking.

 

[backnblack]

A short barreled rifle has a barrel less than 16". You need to fill out the proper paperwork. Get fingerprinted and photographed. Send it all to MD State Police so they can sign off on it. Then send it to the ATF with a $200 check. In 4-5 months, you will get a tax stamp back from them.

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Or have a trust and bypass all that BS

 

[jkray]

Couldn't you make the argument that this would be an AOW? Dosen't the BATFE say that if you put a foregrip on a pistol then its an AOW? which would only be $5 if my memory serves me. not sure how they would react to the stock as well but, I think it may fall under the AOW category

 

[jawn]

Couldn't you make the argument that this would be an AOW? Dosen't the BATFE say that if you put a foregrip on a pistol then its an AOW? which would only be $5 if my memory serves me. not sure how they would react to the stock as well but, I think it may fall under the AOW category

It's only an AOW if it's got a foregrip. With a stock, it's most certainly a SBR. And it's still a 200 dollar tax regardless of whether it's an SBR or an AOW, because you'd be doing it on a Form 1.

Adding a stock makes it a weapon designed to be fired from the shoulder. If it has a barrel under 16", it is an SBR. Do not pass go.

 

[MDMOUNTAINEER]

Couldn't you make the argument that this would be an AOW? Dosen't the BATFE say that if you put a foregrip on a pistol then its an AOW? which would only be $5 if my memory serves me. not sure how they would react to the stock as well but, I think it may fall under the AOW category

Beat to death........................

It's an SBR............................

$200

 

[clandestine]

Couldn't you make the argument that this would be an AOW? Dosen't the BATFE say that if you put a foregrip on a pistol then its an AOW? which would only be $5 if my memory serves me. not sure how they would react to the stock as well but, I think it may fall under the AOW category

$5 is just the transfer of an AOW, to MAKE an AOW its still $200 unless an SOT makes it, then its free and a customer just pays $5 to get in in their name.

That gun cannot be an AOW, it has a buttstock.