Stop The Bleed Class 3/11/2023

[mpollan1]

How did you hear about that class? Winfield is not far from me, I’d have prolly attended that.

It was a location listed on the stop the bleed website. Stop The Bleed Winfield VFD also has a facebook presence where they present other class/training offerings.

 

[Blaster229]

With the fentanyl stuff going on, nowadays you're probably more likely to save a life with narcan than with bleed control stuff. It's bigly important for med kits. People are also fat, so glucose tablets or gel tubes can also be a good addition if you run across someone dropping off from the betus

I want to save the life of my friend or family member with me if they get shot. I am under no obligation to render aid to anyone that I shoot. That's for the cops. I don't carry a med kit. I'm not an EMT.
My fat friend or family member can take care of their diabeetus.
Active shooter situations you're not stopping to render first aid.
If you want to play EMT, then volly and become one.
My EDC pack when I take it somewhere has 1tq, basic GSW kit and some band aids.
Why over think a worthwhile, simple class?
Hell, if there's one thing to have with you, is an AED. I have one. It's in my car on road trips. Not my EDC pack.

 

[Speed3]

Id like to attend this also, I will have to check the calendar

 

[Blaster229]

There's also one at Rocky Gap on Friday the 10th. Me and Dr. Hair might make a Friday of it and get separate(butt, adjoining) rooms. Dinner at Puccini down the street is always a good time.

 

[smokey]

I want to save the life of my friend or family member with me if they get shot. I am under no obligation to render aid to anyone that I shoot. That's for the cops. I don't carry a med kit. I'm not an EMT.
My fat friend or family member can take care of their diabeetus.
Active shooter situations you're not stopping to render first aid.
If you want to play EMT, then volly and become one.
My EDC pack when I take it somewhere has 1tq, basic GSW kit and some band aids.
Why over think a worthwhile, simple class?
Hell, if there's one thing to have with you, is an AED. I have one. It's in my car on road trips. Not my EDC pack.

There is always the possibility that the violent threat isn't going to be the only one bleeding... being that he's a violent threat and all. And ensuring that you've got some medical supplies for relatively common emergencies, and training to go with them, doesn't mean you're "playing emt" anymore than having a gun and training to go with it means you're "playing police".

I've needed to crack open the med kit and handle all kinds of emergencies in just day to day life. I've been glad to be prepared in those instances.

 

[Blaster229]

There is always the possibility that the violent threat isn't going to be the only one bleeding... being that he's a violent threat and all. And ensuring that you've got some medical supplies for relatively common emergencies, and training to go with them, doesn't mean you're "playing emt" anymore than having a gun and training to go with it means you're "playing police".

I've needed to crack open the med kit and handle all kinds of emergencies in just day to day life. I've been glad to be prepared in those instances.

I'm just trying to understand how having the bare minimum for a GSW turns into "you should also carry narcan and glucose".

 

[smokey]

I'm just trying to understand how having the bare minimum for a GSW turns into "you should also carry narcan and glucose".

The narcan training at the last couple stop the bleed classes I had took about 5 extra minutes at the end and was good value added since the EMTs leading the training were already there anyway. The glucose is just a "hey if you hadn't thought of this, it's a cheap and potentially useful thing you could chuck in a med kit". In my teacher-job we're even given gummy snacks and stuff for our kids because we teach diabetic kids. I've got a couple with monitors they give me at the beginning of class and I need to toss them snacks and have them take breaks from time to time.

It's more for a bigger med bag than a slick trauma bag kindve thing.

 

[outrider58]

The narcan training at the last couple stop the bleed classes I had took about 5 extra minutes at the end and was good value added since the EMTs leading the training were already there anyway. The glucose is just a "hey if you hadn't thought of this, it's a cheap and potentially useful thing you could chuck in a med kit". In my teacher-job we're even given gummy snacks and stuff for our kids because we teach diabetic kids. I've got a couple with monitors they give me at the beginning of class and I need to toss them snacks and have them take breaks from time to time.

It's more for a bigger med bag than a slick trauma bag kindve thing.

To me, narcan training and certification is as important as stopping severe bleeding. With the proliferation of opiates these days, an 'innocent' can come into fatal contact accidentally. If I were to delve further into this topic, a thoracostomy needle would be my next step.

 

[MaxVO2]

*****Hey, so do any of you carry stuff in your med bag for helping to deliver/make babies? I would think gunshot wounds are rarer than some man/woman delivering a baby on the street, or at a bar, or at the mall, etc...

I've got a decent GSW kit for the range as I'm an RSO, etc.. and have the training to use it as we do drills for this, but I was thinking the other day for my personal kit to have something a bit bigger I can carry in my car, or wallet, etc.. I like feeling prepared, and have plenty of room in my car for a generator to run an incubator, etc...

At this point, I feel totally and completely unprepared for delivering a baby with what I have in my kit. Gnawing the umbilical cord seems somewhat unsanitary and kinda odd...

 

[outrider58]

*****Hey, so do any of you carry stuff in your med bag for helping to deliver/make babies? I would think gunshot wounds are rarer than some man/woman delivering a baby on the street, or at a bar, or at the mall, etc...

I've got a decent GSW kit for the range as I'm an RSO, etc.. and have the training to use it as we do drills for this, but I was thinking the other day for my personal kit to have something a bit bigger I can carry in my car, or wallet, etc.. I like feeling prepared, and have plenty of room in my car for a generator to run an incubator, etc...

At this point, I feel totally and completely unprepared for delivering a baby with what I have in my kit. Gnawing the umbilical cord seems somewhat unsanitary and kinda odd...

Nitrile gloves and a roach clip-I mean a pair of hemostats.

(maybe add a pair of salad tongs)

 

[E.Shell]

Nitrile gloves and a roach clip-I mean a pair of hemostats.

(maybe add a pair of salad tongs)

...and a Catcher's Mitt.

 

[outrider58]

...and a Catcher's Mitt.

Brilliant minds think alike. I was torn between that and the image of the soldier wearing condoms on his fingers in "The Big Red One"...

 

[Alphabrew]

Mantis defense going a class in Mount Airy on March 19

 

[BUffaloSocks]

I attended the class that was offered by the Winfield VFD this past weekend. Glad I did and now need to put some kits together that have more than band aids, bug spray and aspirin.

Small world, I was also in that class.

How did you hear about that class? Winfield is not far from me, I’d have prolly attended that.

I took their First Aid/CPR/Narcan class in December. I asked about STB and so they put the Feb 19 one on. You register via Eventbrite, so you can find info there or on the WVFD Facebook page. Highly recommend, both were great classes. It was great to throw out some real world questions not on the training syllabus and have a conversation about it.

 

[Alphabrew]

Did anyone take the class at IWLA? How was it? They are having another one on April 16th

 

[outrider58]

Did anyone take the class at IWLA? How was it? They are having another one on April 16th

I take it every year, just to keep it fresh. I was at the last one.

 

[slsc98]

This thread came to mind when I received the below …

The First Five Seconds!

6 Apr 23

"The world is crying out for the very thing that it is shutting out!”

Craig Lounsbrough

Vainly Begging for Help

In today’s America, especially in our rapidly-deteriorating metro areas, bystanders to chronic urban havoc are progressively less likely to help anyone in genuine distress.

Military/police veterans, trained to render assistance to the injured, may jump-in and help, but in our rotting cities you’re much more likely to be surrounded by Tik-Toking, socialist twits who are utterly clueless, helpless, defenseless, useless!

All major metro areas in our nation now have leftist/Democrat mayors who, without fail, promote and defend violent criminality and criminals. They believe high levels of violent crime keep them in power, and that is all they care about. In the interim, non-criminal, tax-paying citizens (who are abandoning our cities as fast as they can) are on their own!

Last Tuesday on the streets of downtown San Francisco, Cash App founder, Bob Lee, was approached by a violent criminal and immediately stabbed to death. As he desperately pleaded with bystanders to help him, he was completely ignored!

He died later that day at a local hospital. No arrests have been made, nor are likely.

In March, Phillip Todd (Sen Rand Paul’s staffer) suffered a similar precipitous knife attack, this time in Washington DC. He lived through it, mostly because a friend with him drove-off the attacker and rendered aid.

The attacker, one day out of prison, was arrested.

Also on Tuesday, Christy Bautista, visiting Washington DC for a concert, was stabbed to death in her hotel room, by a “homeless man” with a long, criminal record.

Bloody-handed suspect was arrested, still at the scene when police arrived.

Given this recent rash of innocent pedestrians on public sidewalks being precipitously attacked, (slashed, stabbed, shot, beaten) by violent career criminals (who are seldom arrested, even more seldom prosecuted, and in the interim are instantly released by Soros-sponsored DAs), being continuously “situationally aware,” and adequately prepared (going armed), is critical to your continued good health!

Better yet, don’t be there! Avoid SF, NY, DC, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta, et al like the plague!

However, being attuned to the presence of threatening individuals may not suffice!

When a blade-wielding slasher does succeed in wounding you and/or others in your care, after neutralizing the threat, having a legitimate trauma kit with you, so that you can stop bleeding quickly, pending arrival of fully-equipped EMTs, represents a critical necessity!

So, don’t bleed-out on a city sidewalk as indifferent bystanders stand around and do nothing to help!

You are your own “First Responder,” maybe the only responder! Help, when it finally arrives, will nearly always arrive too late to save your life.

Short-staffed PDs and EMT Units will eventually get there, but as we say in the business:

“The first five seconds are more important than the next five hours!”

/John Farnam, DTI

Quips – Defense Training International

defense-training.com

 

[outrider58]

To look for a STB class near you...

https://cms.bleedingcontrol.org/class/search

 

[Alphabrew]

Next class on deck Sunday 9/17

 

[Bikebreath]

I’m hoping to get in the one at UM in Baltimore on 10/17.