State Circle Program (MPT) Smigiel vs Frosh

[Haides]

It is kind of scary that Frosh has the power he has with the limited understanding he has about the Constitution and firearms.

No, I think he understands exactly what it means; he just doesn't care.

 

[Privateer]

Does Frost have a Facebook page I wonder. Maybe a post of:

James Madison in Federalist No. 46 wrote:

Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments,to which the people are attached, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.

 

[teratos]

Does Frost have a Facebook page I wonder. Maybe a post of:

James Madison in Federalist No. 46 wrote:

Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments,to which the people are attached, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.

he wouldn't get it.

 

[Privateer]

Or better yet from FP 28

[T]he people, without exaggeration, may be said to be entirely the masters of their own fate. Power being almost always the rival of power, the general government will at all times stand ready to check the usurpations of the state governments, and these will have the same disposition towards the general government. The people by throwing themselves into either scale, will infallibly make it preponderate. If their rights are invaded by either, they can make use of the other as the instrument of redress. How wise will it be in them by cherishing the union to preserve to themselves an advantage which can never be too highly prized!

 

[Privateer]

he wouldn't get it.

Probably not or he would come after me for speaking out.

 

[Inigoes]

Probably not or he would come after me for speaking out.

That's what the MSP is for

 

[Privateer]

Just went thru Frosh's Facebook page. There is a man to whom facts will never change his mind or opinions. Now I understand his behavior from the last legislation session allot better, still do not understand him however...

 

[ridethemessiah]

the only thing that could have solidified mike's argument more is wehn the moderator said " the government has helicopters and rpg's, should the public have them?", mike should have said "if they can afford it, sure".