SRS Lookup Karma

[Yingpin]

M1 Garand -1937420

 

[mgbill]

BINGO!! Direct Hit!

Volume 4 - Model 84R, listed in 1898 as being issued to Co. G, 160th Indiana Vol. Infantry.

Thank you very much - not only for your time, but also for the significant financial investment involved. I only knew that the 4-volume set was hard to find, and expensive, but I did not realized just how expensive.

mgbill

 

[Machodoc]

Thank you very much - not only for your time, but also for the significant financial investment involved. I only knew that the 4-volume set was hard to find, and expensive, but I did not realized just how expensive.

mgbill

You're welcome. Although nobody would pay this much for the volumes listed here, this gives you an idea what someone is up against if they are trying to get all four volumes. These are actual listings, as of a few minutes ago.

In reality, having some, but not all, of the volumes is pretty useless--unless you know that one of your firearms is listed as an exact hit in that volume. That might up the value of the gun a bit, if the book is with it.

 

[Machodoc]

M1 Garand -1937420

I'll check this when I get a chance, but there's really very little info on individual Garands. This data was extracted from various reports and field records in the National Archives, and by WWII, individual rifle serial numbers were not typically being mentioned in reports.

 

[somd_mustangs]

Holy Criminy! $4k for a paperback book.... in "acceptable" condition !

... and I thought the Buxton P38 3 volume set was expensive

 

[Orlando]

All 4 volumes often come up for sale for several hundred $$$$ on E-Bay

 

[Machodoc]

All 4 volumes often come up for sale for several hundred $$$$ on E-Bay

I haven't seen all four volumes for sale at once in a long time. It's usually one volume at a time. with Vol. 1 typically going for around $200, and Vols. 2-4 running anywhere from $250-$400 each when the auction ends.

 

[Orlando]

They are out there and a heck of alot cheaper than those prices on Amazon

 

[Machodoc]

They are out there and a heck of alot cheaper than those prices on Amazon

Yes ... of course. That's why I said nobody would pay those prices for them. Still, I've watched them on eBay and other sites for months. There aren't any cheap bargains. Not sure what you've seen, but even Vol. 1 (small, and produced in large numbers) fetches around $190 at auction these days.

 

[Machodoc]

BUMP

Just letting the group know that I'm still willing to do this, but ask that any one member not send more than one inquiry per week. It's rare that you get a direct hit from this resource, even though it's the best resource available for these firearms, but being able to establish the provenance of a given firearm can "up" the value considerably.

I'll also note that there's not much point in trying to look up M1 Garands, since this data was compiled primarily about pre-WWII firearms.

 

[mgbill]

Been meaning to post a few more, so I'll start off with an 1899 Krag-Jorgensen Carbine, S/N 226177.

 

[Machodoc]

Been meaning to post a few more, so I'll start off with an 1899 Krag-Jorgensen Carbine, S/N 226177.

Not as much good news on this one as there was on your other.

Firearm Type: 1899 Krag-Jorgensen Carbine

Serial Number: 226177

General Information: This serial number falls within the correct bloc of numbers to be an original 1899 carbine. That's good, because there are a number of faked carbines floating around.

Volume 1 - No serial numbers close enough to be significant.

Volume 2 - No very close numbers, but falls within a list of other numbers of rifles shown to have been sold in Northwestern MA in 1938. This is not conclusive, though.

Volume 3 - Nothing close enough to be significant.

Volume 4 - Nothing close enough to be significant.

 

[mgbill]

Thank you again. How about another Krag, this time an 1898 rifle, 319976?

 

[rob257]

Machodoc

FYI - There are actually 5 Volumes. #1 - #2 - #3 - #4 (published 1995) and Vol # 4 (published 1999).
I read the entire thread as of 11:00 AM 4/27/16 and noted you had obtained Vol. #4.

For all thread followers. The type in these books is very small and serial # lookups can be very tedious.
It should also be noted that all Volumes have largely different info usually does not include the previous Vol. info
In other words If your Remchester Model XYZ 12345 is not listed in one book it may be listed in another. So all 5 volumes must be searched; and even then it may not be listed.

Rob

I've finally managed to get the first three (of four) volumes of the Springfield Research Service Serial Numbers of U.S Martial Arms series. I'll be glad to look up numbers as time permits. Just post the firearm type and serial number here.

EDIT:

• While there are some listings for WWII, and later, firearms, these research materials focus more on earlier firearms.
• These records were largely gleaned from military and other reports housed in the National Archives. As such, only a small number of the many hundreds of thousand arms made were specifically mentioned in reports. Getting a hit in the SRS Research tables is sort of like striking gold.
• Please post one request at a time, and space them out a bit.

 

[Machodoc]

FYI - There are actually 5 Volumes. #1 - #2 - #3 - #4 (published 1995) and Vol # 4 (published 1999).
I read the entire thread as of 11:00 AM 4/27/16 and noted you had obtained Vol. #4.

The good news is that the 1999 version of Vol. 4 has all the info in the 1995 edition--plus some. I have the 1999 copy.

For all thread followers. The type in these books is very small and serial # lookups can be very tedious.
It should also be noted that all Volumes have largely different info usually does not include the previous Vol. info
In other words If your Remchester Model XYZ 12345 is not listed in one book it may be listed in another. So all 5 volumes must be searched; and even then it may not be listed.

Rob

Yep! Thanks for pointing this out. That's why I don't want to be swamped with a whole bunch at a time. Going through one, and writing it up, can take up to about an hour for me ... after I've found my glasses.

 

[Machodoc]

Thank you again. How about another Krag, this time an 1898 rifle, 319976?

Total strikeout on this one:

Firearm Type: 1898 Krag-Jorgensen Rifle

Serial Number: 319976

General Information: This serial number falls within the bloc of Model 1898 rifles made in 1901.

Volume 1 - No serial numbers close enough to be significant.

Volume 2 - No serial numbers close enough to be significant.

Volume 3 - No serial numbers close enough to be significant.

Volume 4 - Nothing close enough to be significant. There are a few listed in the 319xxx range, but there's no pattern of issue or ownership.

 

[mgbill]

Again, thank you for your time/trouble to wade through this documentation.

 

[CasualObserver]

Machodoc... you still willing to indulge me in a lookup? Springfield 1903 SN 1308243 I know you said it is more complete the further you go back so hopefully 1929 isn't too new.

 

[Machodoc]

Sorry ... haven't been on this site much lately.

Springfield 1903 SN 1308243

Vol. 1
Nothing close, but distant listings shown before and after are TX National Guard (02-08-1939 not necesarily meaningful).

Vol. 2
Nothing closer than nearly 100 numbers, but bracketed by Maine Maritime Academy (09-09-1942 again,not necessarily meaningful).


Vol. 3
Bracketed by Co. B, 29th Engineers (1308205 and 1308249 / 1308254 -- no dates). This is intriguing, but not conclusive.


Vol. 4
1308231 -- HQ Co, First Brigade, Fort Jay (11-09-1931). This shows that these rifles were not necessarily issued in sequential blocks.

 

[SmokeEaterPilot]

I'm not seeing listings for Eddystone rifles.

Not an SRS hit. Closest one....

781756 E 072218 REVISED BATTLE SIGHT TEST