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  • Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,122
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    Must have messed up a charge and got a squib in my P365 barrel. Bullet barrel popped out of the case into the barrel, but can't get it out yet, any advice?

    Tried a wood dowel and it just mashed. Tried the brass rod I had for knife making and it dug into the round nose instead of moving it. I ordered an 8mm brass rod. Should I pour oil down the barrel to sit for a day or two?
     

    Darkemp

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2009
    7,811
    Marylandistan
    Should be able to pound it out- lead is softer than steel. Brass rod with a heavy mini sledge should work. I had the same thing happen years ago with my USP at a range. Fortunately the next round wouldn’t chamber.
     

    BFMIN

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 5, 2010
    2,813
    Eastern shore
    Kroil, or similar from both ends, & plug with a cork, then let sit for a couple of days.
    Slow steady pressure will be better than "bashing it with a big hammer".
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    22,973
    Socialist State of Maryland
    A jacketed bullet that was propelled by the primer will usually feel like it is stuck pretty tight. If you are pounding on it on a wood table, you are not getting enough of the force on the bullet as the wood table gives. Try holding the barrel in your hand with a brass rod in the barrel and slam the rod against a piece of steel or even a concrete floor. This will impart more energy against the bullet.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,122
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    This is a powder coated cast bullet 147 grain slug. It barely left the case, but it is stuck good. I racked it knowing something was wrong, that case was heavily carbon covered and the action would not close with the next round. The cartridge tip hit the base of the stuck bullet.

    I was very careful hand loading to check all casings on the bleacher with a flash light to verify powder charge before seating bullets. Maybe one got a light charge from the lee perfect or I just got sloppy on one. Maybe something else
     

    308Scout

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 27, 2020
    6,673
    Washington County
    This is a powder coated cast bullet 147 grain slug. It barely left the case, but it is stuck good. I racked it knowing something was wrong, that case was heavily carbon covered and the action would not close with the next round. The cartridge tip hit the base of the stuck bullet.

    I was very careful hand loading to check all casings on the bleacher with a flash light to verify powder charge before seating bullets. Maybe one got a light charge from the lee perfect or I just got sloppy on one. Maybe something else
    Have you tried lightly tapping on the dowel with the nylon side of a gunsmith's hammer? I know you said you used a dowel, but it wasn't clear sure if that was manually pushing or tapping from the muzzle end (that's the direction that I would go if its lodged just after the chamber).
     

    4g64loser

    Bad influence
    Jan 18, 2007
    6,563
    maryland
    Brass rod and a press is better than a hammer but in a pinch the hammer should be ok. Kroil is your friend.

    Had one once in a guys gun that was super stuck partway down the bore and ended up drilling through it with a deep hole bit (in the milling machine) and then it pressed right out.
     

    Scottysan

    Ultimate Member
    May 19, 2008
    2,437
    Maryland
    I made due with a 1/4" socket extension (6"long) and a hammer, when I had the same situation years ago. It did take some force to get it out
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    50,100
    Do not use a wooden dowel unless the bullet tip is perfectly flat(like a wad cutter or semi wad cutter). A wood dowel can split and splinter around a rounded bullet tip and now you have wood adding the the wedging.

    Do not use a cleaning rod without a jag in it for the same reason.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,122
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    Yes the dowel came out split with a hole like the round point in it. Had not thought of the 1/4" extension, but will wait on the brass rod and see how it does, since I bought it now.

    I'm growing tired of learning the hard way. A long time ago I started writing my blog from the aspect of don't step in the same she-it pile I did and learn from my mistakes. The internet if full of people writing back slapping articles of how good they are at something and never want to cover the basics so someone can actually learn from them. Just like powder coating and the mess I had with that. Told a guy on FB failing the same way. Shake and bake dry under 40% humidity. If doing it in high humidity go to the wet, acetone coating and double coat it. Pretty simple stuff, but no one want to talk about the "basics" for the newbies. Its like taking someone fishing the first time and not explaining knot tying to them.

    I was trying to test out the Caldwell Brass Trap for catching casings, which was not going as well as I had hoped and then this happened also. Two failures at once. Happy happy, joy, joy. :lol2: This is why God made beer!
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,745
    Yes the dowel came out split with a hole like the round point in it. Had not thought of the 1/4" extension, but will wait on the brass rod and see how it does, since I bought it now.

    I'm growing tired of learning the hard way. A long time ago I started writing my blog from the aspect of don't step in the same she-it pile I did and learn from my mistakes. The internet if full of people writing back slapping articles of how good they are at something and never want to cover the basics so someone can actually learn from them. Just like powder coating and the mess I had with that. Told a guy on FB failing the same way. Shake and bake dry under 40% humidity. If doing it in high humidity go to the wet, acetone coating and double coat it. Pretty simple stuff, but no one want to talk about the "basics" for the newbies. Its like taking someone fishing the first time and not explaining knot tying to them.

    I was trying to test out the Caldwell Brass Trap for catching casings, which was not going as well as I had hoped and then this happened also. Two failures at once. Happy happy, joy, joy. :lol2: This is why God made beer!
    This works very well for pistols.


    I can almost always get it adjusted to catch almost 100% of my cases. Now the downside is it is a bit more awkward to work with than a free standing brass catcher. I've finally given up with 9mm and 45acp unless the range is crowded. I can usually scoot around and scoop up >90% of my 9mm and 45acp brass anyway since my Glocks tend to not throw it far. And I get enough range brass on most trips to more than make up for the few I lose. Also not much time invested there.

    Now the less common stuff like 32acp, Mak, and 7.62x25 the hand brass catcher comes out everytime.
     

    cornstalk

    Active Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    138
    I was very careful hand loading to check all casings on the bleacher with a flash light to verify powder charge before seating bullets.
    I started reloading a few years ago with a single stage loader, hand weighing each charge. I caught myself loading a bullet with no powder, so decided to idiot proof the process as much as I could. The best way I could think of was to weigh each cartridge when I was all done. I bet I missed at least one charge out of every 100-200 rounds, enough to make me trust myself even less. It might be easier with a multistage loader, but not if you're stopping to hand weigh each charge.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,122
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    Used the 1/4" extension with a wadded up paper towel under the barrel and between the concrete floor and a few medium taps with 12oz ball pen and it popped out. The square head pretty much flattened the top of the bullet. i though it was giving free on tap three, but it the the tip flattening I think. I worked well for future searches by other people.

    Another cartridge would not chamber, sorry to disappoint.
     

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