Single Shot Double Date Luger

[GodOfVice]

OK, now that I REALLY got your attention. Unfortunately I grossly overpaid for this and didn't notice the bolt assy doesn't completely close by maybe 1/16th of an inch. Just enough that it won't extract and cycle another round and it puts a fresh round up against the fired casing.

It shoots the chambered round perfectly but won't extract because of the gap, the extractor can't reach the rim. I took the bolt assy apart and reassembled and it looks OK to me. I'm afraid to tear apart the bottom end, Luger is a complex pistol you know.

Any suggestions????

 

[somd_mustangs]

Not much of a Luger guy but with that much headspace, that isn't a good thing even in single-shot.
The bolt/toggle may be from another pistol. Not sure if you can fix that, taking the bottom end down won't help I don't think.
Try contacting:

Tom Heller (Luger Doc)
Tel 636-447-3006
Email- lugerdoc@charter.net

 

[thumbert]

You try different ammo?

 

[GodOfVice]

Not much of a Luger guy but with that much headspace, that isn't a good thing even in single-shot.
The bolt/toggle may be from another pistol. Not sure if you can fix that, taking the bottom end down won't help I don't think.
Try contacting:

Tom Heller (Luger Doc)
Tel 636-447-3006
Email- lugerdoc@charter.net

Thank you, that's a start!

 

[Bolts Rock]

As long as you leave the mainspring ( inside the grip) and central toggle pin alone Lugers are as easy as 1911s to detail strip. Every part except tiny pins and the grip screws has at leat the last two digits of the serial number. If all parts match detail strip, clean and inspect.

 

[GodOfVice]

You try different ammo?

Ammo doesn't matter... it's even like this with an empty chamber.

 

[GodOfVice]

As long as you leave the mainspring ( inside the grip) and central toggle pin alone Lugers are as easy as 1911s to detail strip. Every part except tiny pins and the grip screws has at leat the last two digits of the serial number. If all parts match detail strip, clean and inspect.

Old shaky hands aren't the best for that BUT I kinda suspect a lower rod or link is backwards or upside down??? I'm in process of emailing the Luger Doc guy.

 

[somd_mustangs]

Tom can take a while to get back to you, be patient

 

[GodOfVice]

Tom can take a while to get back to you, be patient

Sounds fair, I just don't want to ship it anywhere. I'm hoping something both simple and stupid but doubtful I'm that lucky.

At minimum it's my WW2 watching TV gun, change channel and the 1892 is my cowboy and indians gun to fondle.

 

[Atlasarmory]

Could the extractor be too short ?

 

[GodOfVice]

Could the extractor be too short ?

Nope, the bolt just isn't going home all the way even though it's locked in battery. HIGHLY doubtful but maybe the bolt is too short????

 

[StickShaker]

Could it take or have been modified for 9x21 ammo?

 

[GodOfVice]

Could it take or have been modified for 9x21 ammo?

Doubtful, the gap exist even with no magazine in it.

 

[GodOfVice]

Nice reply from Luger Doc today which reads....

Jackson, THere are several possibilities for the problems that you described. It's possible that your barrel chamber was reamed too deep (new barrel required) or the breech block is undersized or your recoil spring is too weak to completely close the toggle. Finally, it could be an extractor problem. There sould be a small gap between the face of the breech block and the chamber, but can't diagnose the exact problem from you photos. If you care to send me your pistol, I can inspect and diagnose problem @$50, test fire @$25 and return S&H @$25. Then I can give you a firm quote for parts & labor to repair.

I asked him what the clearance should be in 1,000th and does he have a breech block and extractor for sale. I thought his reply was both professional and nice.

 

[lee2]

good deal it really depends on what you're willing to spend on repairs.
if it were mine, i prefer a shooting firearm to a wall hanger.

 

[GodOfVice]

good deal it really depends on what you're willing to spend on repairs.
if it were mine, i prefer a shooting firearm to a wall hanger.

Absolutely, I buy them ALL to shoot otherwise a chinchy replica would do. I wonder if there's someone out there in TV land that has one and could measure their gap with a feeler gauge.

 

[somd_mustangs]

..... I thought his reply was both professional and nice....

Tom is a good guy.
A little expensive but you get what you pay for
Considering a working Luger is worth a lot more than one that's boogered, it may be worth it to have a professional look it over and fix whatever ails it.

I traded my one and only Luger so can't help with measurements.

BTW: He has a lot of genuine WW2 P.38, PP, PPK etc. parts as well as the P.08

 

[GodOfVice]

Tom is a good guy.
A little expensive but you get what you pay for
Considering a working Luger is worth a lot more than one that's boogered, it may be worth it to have a professional look it over and fix whatever ails it.

I traded my one and only Luger so can't help with measurements.

BTW: He has a lot of genuine WW2 P.38, PP, PPK etc. parts as well as the P.08

Well I didn't call Sarco because I thought they closed down. I want to order new repo extractor and spring. It looks like they're alive and well..... true or false? Playing with it tonight it does in fact grab the rim, maybe it is only the spring? When I tore it down I stretched it a tad hoping that would cure it, nope didn't happen.

 

[somd_mustangs]

Sarco is still up and running, ordered some parts from them not too long ago...
hopefully that's all it is !

 

[GodOfVice]

Sarco is still up and running, ordered some parts from them not too long ago...
hopefully that's all it is !

Done, extractor and spring 30 bucks plus shipping (whatever that is)

Kid was pretty naive, I told him "Paypal, just to piss them off". No idea of what I meant, oh well as long as I get exactly what I want.